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Obama Will Attend Opening of New Solar Panel Plant That Will Power 3k Homes (Cost: $50k Per Home)
gateway pundit ^ | October 23, 2009 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 10/24/2009 8:24:54 AM PDT by lowbridge

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To: ridesthemiles
If I went to the bank and tried to borrow $50,000 to put solar onto my home, they would laugh me into the next state.

Banks make loans for this every day.

61 posted on 10/24/2009 11:17:04 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: WellyP
180 acres of tornado and hurricane targets

Not to mention hail storm targets.....

62 posted on 10/24/2009 12:17:52 PM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: lowbridge
Another white elephant in the making.

The $50k per household cost is just the tip of the iceberg.

The largest solar installation in the world, in Spain has several full time crews washing mirrors (lots of sun = lots of dust) and replacing electronic control equipment on the tracking mirrors.
The voltaic cells vesions are not much different.

Super maintenance intensive, and that's not free.

63 posted on 10/24/2009 12:38:05 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: driftdiver
I’ve seen some figures on maintenance costs. Most of them seem to rely on a 30-40 life span for the solar panels.

No solar installation anywhere, has had even one fifth of that lifespan without major overhauls.

Not a single one!

64 posted on 10/24/2009 12:40:26 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: cynwoody
There's a guy who posted an article on how to make a 60-watt panel for about $100, not including batteries and inverter and labor.

Why waste time even reading about it?
That's just enough power to drive four CFLs during the daytime (if you're lucky) when you don't need the light.

Wonderful!

65 posted on 10/24/2009 12:44:36 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: Publius6961
That's just enough power to drive four CFLs during the daytime (if you're lucky) when you don't need the light.

That's why he has it hooked up to deep-cycle storage batteries. Enough juice to keep his laptop charged and provide a few hours of light and DVD watching after dark.

I was trying to scale his solution up to the point where it could take a normal house (as opposed to a campsite) off the grid (except for the odd cloudy spell, for which you would need a good windmill and/or one of these). It's difficult to get the $$$ to work.

66 posted on 10/24/2009 1:18:40 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ColdWater
Except that it is not driven by normal decision making processes. It is driven by politicians.

Oh, no doubt about it - if it were subject to normal "market-driven" or "engineering-driven" demands (such as paying close attention to projected return on investment, competing with other investment alternatives to weed out the 'clunkers', etc.) it may never have gotten past the "laugh test".

However in a perverse inversion of reality (of the sort that we are seeing nearly every day), such an "investment" may make economic sense as a preemptive/defensive move, to keep Soviet-inspired, heavy-handed government central planners at bay so that the utility can continue to run the rest of their business in a more straightforward way without as much other government interference as they might expect to see coming down the road (they won't be able to avoid all of it, but maybe this trivial $150 million feint may serve as a useful diversion and distraction, a figurative green-tech smokescreen while they run off in a different direction).

In that way of thinking, it is little different than accomodating the usual sort of extortion and bribes and payoffs that are necessary when dealing with any kind of government entity, union, or other organized criminal enterprise.

67 posted on 10/24/2009 1:33:18 PM PDT by Zeppo (Save the cheerleader, save the world...)
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To: TweetEBird007

smile...but the pilots are still free souls...smile...


68 posted on 10/24/2009 8:00:10 PM PDT by tillacum (Life isn't waiting for the rain to stop, it's learning to dance in the rain. (author ?))
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To: TweetEBird007

We have civilian Lear jets, we have commercial jets, in the olden days even the P51s broke the cound barrier. Not only the gov’t planes can break the sound barrier.


69 posted on 10/24/2009 8:02:29 PM PDT by tillacum (Life isn't waiting for the rain to stop, it's learning to dance in the rain. (author ?))
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To: WellyP

THANK YOU! As an Arcadian I can vouch for the fact that we seem to get rain every day for at least half the year. We’re still getting either clouds or rain every day. Right now it’s a completely overcast day down here, so it’ll be interesting to see how Obama spins it for his PR photo shoot.


70 posted on 10/27/2009 8:21:16 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

My electric bill is high enough as it is from living in a 100 year old Arcadian house. This is the last thing I wanted...


71 posted on 10/27/2009 8:22:57 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: All

Why don’t they build a couple of Nuclear power plants??? A lot more effective than solar energy..


72 posted on 10/27/2009 8:36:42 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: All; DungeonMaster
"Freaking worthless windmills!" --Rush Limbaugh, 5/21/09

Oops, wrong thread.

{ping} :-)

73 posted on 10/27/2009 8:42:35 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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