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To: JenB
Why is teaching the test a bad thing?

Your mother had the flexibility to teach what and how she wanted, when she wanted. And my guess is that you weren't missing school 1 out of every 12 days. Public school teachers don't have this flexibility.

What they teach, every day, is prescribed from district central admin. The test comes on Friday. The test may show that the kids didn't learn squat that week. Too bad, next week is already planned and they'll be teaching something else come Monday.

The curriculum is set by district central admin, following standards of learning defined by the state, the SOLs meeting guidelines prescribed by the Feds.

It's all completely regimented now. There are no days where the science teacher can take a break from the curriculum and spark interest with a splashy experiment.

The English teacher who is passionate about a particular book doesn't get a chance to assign that book. What books are read are prescribed by someone else.

Learning happens best when the student is eager and excited to learn, when he is truly interested in the subject matter. Teachers who know their craft can spark this - they can lead the kid to the source and keep him excited and motivated. Teaching and learning works best when the teacher too is excited about the same subject matter.

That kind of teaching is all but dead in today's regimented institutions. NCLB is a big part of the reason why.

40 posted on 10/20/2009 4:15:38 PM PDT by Swing_Thought (The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Swing_Thought

If there had suddenly been a big change in national test scores, downward, I would believe that NCLB had had an effect like you say. But the schools were not all just peachy until Bush came along. They’ve been useless sewers of ignorance for a long time. NCLB may not have helped but it can’t be the only thing to blame.


52 posted on 10/20/2009 6:56:10 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Swing_Thought
Are you a teacher? Because I am - and what you are describing is so far from the truth in any school I have even heard of. The closest that I've seen come to what you are describing are schools that have failed and have been given to an educational corporation to be run.

And, btw, teachers best be teaching to the test - what else are they going to do? If I know my students will be tested, among other things, on figurative language, why would I not teach similes and metaphors just because they are on the test? That doesn't even make sense.

Besides, teachers cannot teach to the final test as we are only given the guidelines of what to cover - not the test itself.

One more thing before I sign off for the night.When your doctor, your airline pilot, your H/VAC repairman, your mechanic took their various board certifications -- dont you hope they were taught to the test? I would hate to think the airline pilot in whose plane I am in was taught about brain surgery rather than how to fly. I want my H/VAC guy taught how to repair my system, not how to knit doilies just because his teacher had a passion in that area.

53 posted on 10/20/2009 6:59:21 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Swing_Thought; JenB; achilles2000
Actually, the Marxist indoctrination centers funded by taxpayer money are at fault. The obscene amount of money being squandered on swimming pools, football teams, junior year in Europe in some tony Connecticut gold coast towns, and every form of entertainment known to man or beast at whatever expense produces very little but vacant headed students who think that NCLB tests are just sooooo unfair. After all, the kiddies have to put their time into Homecoming Weekend or the next prom. They can't be expected to actually give a rat's patoot about literature, language, actual history, algebra, geometry, trigonometry, calculus, biology (the in class or lab kind), chemistry, physics, etc., when there are important entertainments to attend to. Besides, if the diploma is made more or less automatic, the kiddies can go on to be edumakashun majors with a lifetime of cushy and overpaid jobs with obscene perks and pensions for accomplishing nothing much at all.

No child is prohibited from supplementing his/her education at the public library. Andrew Carnegie accomplished more for American education through "free" public libraries than the entire membership of the National Education Association.

Socialized medicine is a nightmare and so is socialized brainwashing posing as "education."

73 posted on 10/21/2009 9:25:17 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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