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Tutor alleges some 'Noles reading on 2nd-grade level in NCAA transcripts
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/FSU-releases-NCAA-transcripts-Some-Noles-readi?urn=ncaaf,196189 ^ | Oct 15, 2009 | Matt Hinton

Posted on 10/16/2009 11:34:29 AM PDT by flutters

After months of appeals, wrangling over public records laws and the usual backbiting between the university and the NCAA, an appellate court finally gave Florida State the go-ahead Wednesday to release a 695-page transcript of its Oct. 18, 2008 hearing before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions, testimony from which was used to smack multiple sports at FSU in March with probation, minor scholarship restrictions and -- most notably in light of Bobby Bowden's quixotic pursuit of the career wins record -- vacated wins for playing ineligible players later accused of cheating in an online course ("Musical Cultures of the World") in 2006 and 2007. The transcript didn't tell us a whole lot we didn't already know. (Although it is, like, 700 pages long, so a few people are still reading.)

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1 posted on 10/16/2009 11:34:29 AM PDT by flutters
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Snippet:
Brenda Monk, a learning specialist hired to work with athletes who had learning and physical disabilities, was accused of improperly helping students type, edit and write their papers. Monk, who testified that some of those athletes had a second-grade reading level, was accused of committing academic fraud. In one case, she was said to have let students use a study guide that had answers to exam questions for an online music course.

Monk has left the university and filed a defamation suit against Florida State.


2 posted on 10/16/2009 11:36:15 AM PDT by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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2nd grade? i’m surprised it’s that high...................


3 posted on 10/16/2009 11:37:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more airtime than Michael Jordan...........)
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To: flutters

Only some “semi-noles” grow up to be “adult productive noles”


4 posted on 10/16/2009 11:39:42 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: Red Badger

Now if only they could speak at a second grade level...


5 posted on 10/16/2009 11:40:09 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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6 posted on 10/16/2009 11:41:14 AM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: Red Badger

Some can read at the 2nd grade level. It is unknown whether this is above or below the mean.


7 posted on 10/16/2009 11:41:44 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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The classes I was in w/ football players was ALWAYS attended by the players, except on test days, when they were NEVER there.

One class had a fullback from some Caribbean isle, who, I’m pretty sure didn’t speak English.


8 posted on 10/16/2009 11:42:20 AM PDT by Gunflint
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To: flutters

see Spot run!


9 posted on 10/16/2009 11:43:21 AM PDT by Pajama Blogger (Pajama Power)
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To: pgkdan

If only they could play football at a second-grade level.


10 posted on 10/16/2009 11:43:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: flutters

And we wonder why Ignorance is rampant in this country.

Truly disgusting.


11 posted on 10/16/2009 11:47:29 AM PDT by EggsAckley (There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply. W.C. Fields)
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To: flutters

I kaint spell stoodent atheleet but I is one!


12 posted on 10/16/2009 11:49:47 AM PDT by mono
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Do the math. If these “college” students are reading at a second grade level what about their peers that did not make it to college. What does this tell you about the future of America when we can send students to school for twelve years and they are illiterate? Who bears the blame? Certainly someone is to blame.


13 posted on 10/16/2009 11:50:05 AM PDT by nj patriot (Gore is beyond help.... Snakes in the head.)
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College Athletics (Football/Basketball) at Division 1A Schools is a cesspool. This has been going on for a very long time and the public isn't aware of how bad it is.

I'd bet that more than 95% of Scholarship Athletes playing Football or Basketball at Division 1A Schools couldn't academically quality for the Universites they are attending if they were to apply as a general student. It's even worst than that. Most of these athletes aren't even CLOSE to qualifing!
14 posted on 10/16/2009 11:53:00 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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shocked, I say.

Dated a girl in college who was a TA for Remedial Math.... "Math for Jocks" was the nickname.

She used to get multiple-choice tests where all the letters would be off by one question....the kid had memorized them slightly wrong.

Prof's response? "Close enough." Guess he liked sports, too.

15 posted on 10/16/2009 11:54:36 AM PDT by wbill
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2nd grade? i’m surprised it’s that high...................

sounds like presidential prospects.

16 posted on 10/16/2009 11:55:38 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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If these “college” students are reading at a second grade level what about their peers that did not make it to college

I think that the argument here is that athletes are held to a lower standard.

For instance, the star h-back at my college got in with an SAT of '690'. At the time, you got 400, just for writing your name on the test. If I had tried to get in with a score like that, they'd have laughed at me.

But then again, I can't run a 40 in four flat, either. That would filed under "Extra Curricular Activities", and likely was counted 97% in his admissions scores.

17 posted on 10/16/2009 11:59:32 AM PDT by wbill
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Good grief, this has been going on the day 1A schools discovered they could profit by ticket sales and television contracts.

There are some who graduate with a degree that can barely spell their own name, much less write a letter explaining that no, he really didn’t stab his wife and her friend to death...


18 posted on 10/16/2009 12:02:49 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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What does this tell you about the future of America when we can send students to school for twelve sixteen years and they are illiterate?

Many college graduates are functionally illiterate.

19 posted on 10/16/2009 12:10:32 PM PDT by Prokopton
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20 posted on 10/16/2009 12:11:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (You talkin' ta me? YOU TALKIN TO ME! Well just who are you talkin' to?)
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