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Weak Dollar Equals Strong Stocks, For Now
Barrons ^ | OCTOBER 14, 2009 | RANDALL W. FORSYTH

Posted on 10/14/2009 4:28:39 AM PDT by expat_panama

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In case anybody checked, the dollar's path has been steadily downward since the early years of the administration of George W. Bush. And, notwithstanding the bleating you hear about the battered buck, that's just fine with Wall Street.

According to Barclays Capital, "since 2003, dollar weakness has gone hand-in-hand with equity rallies." The bank's economists estimate currency depreciation helped to reduce the trade deficit, which added 1.1 percentage points to gross domestic product growth in the first half of 2009 from a year earlier.

From the stock market's perspective, Barclays Capital notes in its U.S. Portfolio Strategy weekly letter that more than 30% of revenues for Standard & Poor's 500 companies come from abroad. Thus, dollar weakness boosts earnings of large, U.S. multinational corporations through increased competitiveness and positive currency translation effects, as foreign revenues are converted into a greater number of shrunken dollars.

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Barclays expects dollar weakness to persist in the months ahead, which would support the cyclical rally through year-end, it says. Bad news for the buck is good news for stocks. Booyah!

That underscores why, for all the angst the dollar's decline has produced, it has failed to upset the stock market ("October Crashes I Have Known (But Not Loved)," Oct. 9.)

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At the same time, notices of the dollar's demise seem premature. It's popular to compare the U.S. with post-war Britain in terms of the dollar being supplanted as the global reserve currency, as sterling was after World War II, when U.K. was all but bankrupt from fighting two world wars.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: currency; deficit; dollar; economy; stocks; trade
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1 posted on 10/14/2009 4:28:39 AM PDT by expat_panama
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Well Gosh, if a weak dollar is so wonderful, I guess Mugabe is running the best show in the world, huh?

Looking forward to paying for breakfast with that Tera-Buck note.

2 posted on 10/14/2009 4:33:22 AM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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To: expat_panama

It is not the dollar weakness that has helped stocks, but the low interest rates. The weakness of the dollar should have no effect on stocks unless stocks make their money internationally. It is the low interest rates that are making investing in stocks more appealing.


3 posted on 10/14/2009 4:38:24 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Nuc1; investigateworld; TChris; 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot; Mase; dennisw; MNJohnnie
The article says foreigners are our buying stocks and goods, and what it didn't mention is what we're buying with all that foreign money.  The fact that the trade deficit's declining means we're buying mostly foreign stocks and not foreign goods.  

Having Americans investing abroad should make protectionists pleased but my bet's nothing will ever make them happy.

4 posted on 10/14/2009 4:39:09 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Always Right
The weakness of the dollar should have no effect on stocks unless stocks make their money internationally.

From the article: "Barclays Capital notes in its U.S. Portfolio Strategy weekly letter that more than 30% of revenues for Standard & Poor's 500 companies come from abroad."

5 posted on 10/14/2009 4:41:32 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Always Right
"...weakness of the dollar should have no effect on stocks unless stocks make their money internationally..."

Wait a second, when something costs less it sells more.


6 posted on 10/14/2009 4:43:28 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Regulator
Well Gosh, if a weak dollar is so wonderful, I guess Mugabe is running the best show in the world, huh?

I wish more people would have said that when W let the dollar crash. Economic gains that result from a weak currency are the equivalent of an accounting trick. It's all smoke and mirrors.

7 posted on 10/14/2009 4:45:07 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Regulator
Looking forward to paying for breakfast with that Tera-Buck note.

How come inflation's lower now than it was a few years ago when the dollar was stronger?

8 posted on 10/14/2009 4:45:31 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Wait a second, when something costs less it sells more.

Only if the demand stays the same...and if financing is available.

9 posted on 10/14/2009 4:45:53 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Labyrinthos
more than 30% of revenues for Standard & Poor's 500 companies come from abroad."

That caught my eye too.  Makes sense though, the goods we sell are cheaper just as stocks in companies that make those goods are cheaper.
 

10 posted on 10/14/2009 4:49:26 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Always Right
Only if the demand stays the same...and if financing is available...

OK fine; when a foreigner picks out a stock on the NASDAQ, how does this 'make their money internationally' change the demand and financing?

11 posted on 10/14/2009 4:55:00 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Because they are still paying the same price for our goods in their currency, our companies are making a much higher profit margin on those sales. This helps boost their bottom line and the perceived value of the company driving up the price.


12 posted on 10/14/2009 5:00:41 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: expat_panama

I doubt there are any good numbers on who, or where the money for stocks is coming from. You got a report, from one company, most likely one or two guys at terminals that found some data that looks like a pattern and reported it.

Who knows.

It is like a General getting a report from a GI in a frozen fox hole that he heard German voices in the night.


13 posted on 10/14/2009 5:01:26 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: Always Right
they are still paying the same price for our goods in their currency

No they're not.  Cheaper dollar, cheaper prices for our goods and stocks and foreigners buy more of both.

14 posted on 10/14/2009 5:23:42 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Regulator

Oh no, if you are a gold bug, you can pay at the grocery store with bullion or coins.


15 posted on 10/14/2009 5:24:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: expat_panama

Very few understand that a strong dollar makes imports cheap and exports expensive. A weak dollar increases the cost of imports and drops the price of exports.

It is two sides of the same coin. Regardless of the value of the dollar, there are advantages and disadvantages.

People should know, however, that for the last two decades, the dollar was kept intentionally high by Japan, China, and Europe to fuel their exports, keeping domestic manufacturers at a disadvantage in the international market.

For now, as US interest rates remain near zero while other nations raise theirs and they do not have the money to invest in the dollar to keep it inflated, it will continue to decline in value.


16 posted on 10/14/2009 5:25:38 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: expat_panama

deflation is like being in the eye of the hurricane. Watch out for the eyewall coming from the opposite direction.


17 posted on 10/14/2009 5:26:01 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: Leisler

Isn’t it remarkable how well the market has been doing since summer, when the FBI urgently helped Goldman Sachs recover its stolen proprietary market manipulating (errr, “program trading”) software from that rogue Russian-name analyst?


18 posted on 10/14/2009 5:29:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: expat_panama
No they're not. Cheaper dollar, cheaper prices for our goods and stocks and foreigners buy more of both

Stock prices go down relative to their currency, but in most cases the price of goods stays constant in their currency. In economic theory the price might go down, but in reality, if they priced the car at 20,000 euro's, it stays at 20,000 euro's regardless of what the dollar does. I-Phone stays at 200 euro's regardless of the dollar.

19 posted on 10/14/2009 5:36:01 AM PDT by Always Right
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"...doubt there are any good numbers on who, or where the money for stocks is coming from..."

Foreign-owned assets in the United States, excluding financial derivatives (increase/financial inflow (+))      U.S. securities other than U.S. Treasury securities  
         
1980 $5,457   1995 $77,249  
1981 $6,905   1996 $103,272  
1982 $6,085   1997 $161,409  
1983 $8,164   1998 $156,315  
1984 $12,568   1999 $298,834  
1985 $50,962   2000 $459,889  
1986 $70,969   2001 $393,885  
1987 $42,120   2002 $283,299  
1988 $26,353   2003 $220,705  
1989 $38,767   2004 $381,493  
1990 $1,592   2005 $450,386  
1991 $35,144   2006 $683,245  
1992 $30,043   2007 $605,652  
1993 $80,092   2008 -$126,737  
1994 $56,971        

 

It's with the BEA'S balance of payments.  

 

Stock traders buy with the money they got, and while Americans buy stocks with dollars, foreigners buy them with foreign money.  People tend to keep very good records on how much money comes and goes.

20 posted on 10/14/2009 5:43:54 AM PDT by expat_panama
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