That there are 10 times as many polar bears as 50 years ago?

It is not disputed by the eco-nuts. Overpopulation is their big problem I thinks.

Others could probably give you a better rundown. I saw it on Fox News. Gore was giving one of his speeches on Global Warming and talked about the Polar bears being hurt by it.

There was a question and answer session and a man replied to him that there are MORE Polar bears now. This ensued after a number of back and forths. They cut the mans mike off!

So used Soup cans and all go in the Trash.

If I used canned soup (I don't, I make from scratch) that can would get cleaned and go into my gardening supplies.

It's not that I'm trying to save the planet, hell, I want increased CO2 so plants grow better. I'm just very, very frugal.

/johnny

Now the US House of Representatives, and the US Senate must become educated. Then as zero sees the gig is up, he will allow his chief scientific adviser to back of the global warming horse shit. And the USA just like under three past presidents will not sanctify the UN Kyato crapola.
As more European scientist insist global warming is horse crap and those EU politicians are forced to see they are fostering lies upon their peoples, things will hopefully change.
I understand there are ground swells taking place on the hill to carefully examine this issue. Who knows. Enough of these people may fear the masses are catching on, and decide to become honest leaders and just can all this carbon tax crap once and for all.
For once, the truth may actually lead to benefits to all mankind. Hey. Plants need CO2 to live. Give the plants a fair shake in all this. Hmmmmm......perhaps properly marketed, we could bring down the socialist commie environmental movements once and for all.
And replace them with more scientific oriented but fair minded, mature groups that do have often honest gripes. Clean air and water is not evil. It is in all our best interests. But to many of these clowns as so many here are so painfully aware... totally abuse their standing.
Clean up our streams, rivers, bays, oceans and air, where it can be shown to lead to a more healthy environment for us all. I have no problem with being able to eat fish for instance free of mercury or a host of industrial by products from plastics manufacturing we know reside along our industrial coast lines that cause cancers etc..
The lists are long in this arena. In short, things that are proven to benefit us all from a health standpoint.
But CO2?
The jerks went to far on this one. To hear clowns in the L/MSM use the term......CO2 a pollutant, a poison..... the assholes have been allowed to go to far!

There is no end to the dialogues going on....from post #14...which is a review at Amazon of the book authored by Lawrence Solomon....we have a discussion of the amount of carbon....

Review of Deniers, April 6, 2008

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James Safranek says:

So how much risk are you willing to take with carbon? In other words, as carbon emissions continue to grow yearly, how much research are YOU going to need to before you have 100% proof that carbon plays a big part in modifying climate? You want to wait 10-20 yearsfor confirmation? Longer? Rather than abide by the precautionary principle and lower carbon, you're willing to take that risk? What if the minority is wrong?

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Dennis Baker says:

The amount of carbon in the atmosphere takes up, if you represent entire atmosphere as a football field, 3 inches, a 3-inch line. The growth is from 1 inch. Waiting 20 years isn't going to make much of a difference. Maybe someone else can give a more precise representation of the carbon currently in the atmosphere.

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James Safranek says:

First you state --with much confidence-- that there's not much carbon in the atmosphere to begin with, so 20 more years of increase will not matter (you provide no evidence to support this claim). Then you ask for a precise representation of the carbon currently in the atmosphere. You sound clueless to me.
In 150 years, man-made C in the atmosphere (actually tropospheric C) has risen from 280 to 377 ppm.
(Source: google CDIAC--"Recent Greenhouse Gas Concentrations")

If you spent around 4 to 6 hours of your life REALLY trying to understand what a doubling of current C levels will result in, you'd be alarmed. Not an 'alarmist', just alarmed. The best paleoclimatic analog we have for a doubling of C (which our kids will probably experience) existed in the Eocene. I'll let you discover for yourself what went down at this point in geologic time. Try UNDER A GREEN SKY by Ward for a primer.

Good luck.

Lawrence Solomon: The end is near ( global warming scare is all over but the shouting )

Just as the rino Lindsey Graham signs on to Al Gore's religion in a big way. How fitting!

They cut the mans mike off!

Now that is really tacky.,....LOL

Good reading. A brutal article if you're a global warming Goreite though.

Here is a thread telling about it;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2360081/posts

The Global Warming scare hasn’t come close to a zenith yet for me. We have too many clowns in DC bent on destroying our country to solve this non-problem When they are safely sent out to pasture, the scare will be over for me.

Just looking at this Blog:

http://www.energyboom.com/

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I get the Frugality thing.

I am still working full time so I admit to being lazy sometimes.

There was a time when I was first married that I tried to get my Wife to do the Frugality thing:

Each person in the household was to have their own Plate, Bowl, Cup and Silver. If they didn’t wash their own it would be dirty for the next meal. That didn’t fly.

So everyone just grabbed a clean one out of the Cupboard and threw their dirty stuff in the Sink. Let Mom wash it.

If things get real bad after I retire I could see having a cupboard full of Mason jars and soup cans for glasses.

Saving the resource of the metal in the can is good, But What is the cost of washing a can with potable water to just put it in the recycling? As long as we have plenty of water, I guess its OK.

Thanks...

Another related thread:

Obama EPA releases Bush-era global warming finding

Posted on Tue 22 Sep 2009 08:04:20 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

“They’re going to shove cap-and-tax through and redistribute the remaining wealth of the United States to Third World dictators.”

I’d like to see Gore’s face when he sees Obama at the head of the line.

And another related thread...this from the NY Times:

As U.N. Meets on Climate, Momentum Is Elusive

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By ANDREW C. REVKIN Published: September 21, 2009

The world leaders who are meeting at the United Nations to discuss climate change on Tuesday, are faced with an intricate challenge: building momentum for an international climate treaty at a time when global temperatures have been stable for a decade and may even drop in the next few years.

The plateau in temperatures has been seized upon by skeptics as evidence that the threat of global warming is overblown. And some climate experts worry that it could hamper treaty negotiations and slow the progress of legislation to curb carbon dioxide emissions in the United States.

One of the most important issues is that someone has to be held accountable for lying to America's children for years, sending children home to ask their parents why they're "killing the polar bears." No other word for it but evil.

Thank you very much for the link...Excellent reading...