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To: GodGunsGuts
It is not a strawman that many have correctly pointed out that it is the view of God as the creator of an ordered universe that obeys the laws that HE set down that has made Jewish and Christian individuals and cultures such fertile ground for scientific progress. Nor is it a strawman to point out that a “god of the gaps” philosophy is a departure from this view of God.

GGG tries to pretend that he believes that God is the creator of the Universe, but only so long as God did it the way GGG wants to interpret the Bible. GGG refuses to believe in a God who doesn't assist in the destruction of his enemy, scientific discovery.

GGG spends all his time trying in vain to tear down the science that he is too ignorant and fearful of to understand.

When someone is looking for God “in the gaps” they have stopped doing science.

134 posted on 10/14/2009 1:26:27 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: allmendream; GodGunsGuts
"It is not a strawman that many have correctly pointed out that it is the view of God as the creator of an ordered universe that obeys the laws that HE set down that has made Jewish and Christian individuals and cultures such fertile ground for scientific progress."

Since those laws that you seem to believe direct a universe that denies the words that God gave us have never been established or placed into an orderly abstract or equation, yes it is a strawman.

You speak constantly of things that do not exist, and deny the things that do.

Since your universe does not fit either the physical evidence, nor God's description of it, we cannot allow you to call your games "science."

139 posted on 10/14/2009 1:38:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: allmendream; tpanther

There you go again with yet another strawan! Creationists (myself included) don’t believe in a God of the gaps. We believe God’s Word when He says that he created the ENTIRE UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING IN IT, and that HE IS CURRENTLY UPHOLDING EVERY ASPECT OF IT BY THE WORD OF HIS POWER. That does not leave any room for your puny “god of the gaps”, dreamer.


142 posted on 10/14/2009 1:45:15 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream; GodGunsGuts; count-your-change

“It is not a strawman that many have correctly pointed out that it is the view of God as the creator of an ordered universe that obeys the laws that HE set down that has made Jewish and Christian individuals and cultures such fertile ground for scientific progress”


Of course it’s a strawman, because no one has argued that somehow God or anyone that believes in God is anti-science as evos contend or that the Judeo-Christian cultures have somehow been UN-scientific just because they understand scripture, or rightly recognize design.

Just like it’s not anti-scientific to understand God is greater than science.

When you contort yourself into such pretzels...

well, as was pointed out dreamer, your point is actually received crystal clear and is exactly what’s bringing you down!


160 posted on 10/14/2009 2:56:41 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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