Hmong shamans help at Valley hospitals (American hospitals accomodating black magic- Obamacare)

Fresno Bee ^ | October 10, 2009 | Barbara Anderson

[amoktime]

Shamans can tie strings around a neck and wrist. A red string around the neck helps in healing, and a white string around a wrist maintains a soul during hospitalization.

A shaman, or "txiv neeb" in Hmong, can ask the Mercy hospital staff for permission to do ceremonies that go beyond chanting. An example would be a request to sprinkle water over incisions. According to Mercy's policy, hospital staff are to try to make accommodations.

The ceremonies can occur in patient rooms, in the emergency department or in surgery preparation areas.

The hospital ceremonies are brief -- 10 to 15 minutes. By contrast, healing rituals conducted in private homes can last hours and typically involve a drum, bells and the rattling of rings.

Before the policy, Hmong healing ceremonies were occurring, but the hospital gave shamans only tacit, informal consent. One private social-service agency -- Healthy House within a MATCH Coalition -- pushed for

[amoktime]

[Grammar Nazi]

What on Earth does this have have to do with Obama? (Answer: Absolutely nothing.)

How does it differ qualitatively from Christian rites performed for hospital patients? (Answer: It doesn’t in the slightest.)

If Obama’s health care proposals were a clever ruse to drive many conservatives right over the edge, he’s already succeeded swimmingly.

[Tainan]

This is not "black magic."

And if its consented to by the person receiving the visit...It Ain't Nobody Business But Their Own!

...semi famous song lyrics apropo to the OT

[Slings and Arrows]

Chaplains worked with a shaman, for example, who wanted to bring a live chicken to a ceremony, Enriquez said. The shaman was asked whether he could substitute a rubber chicken. That was acceptable, he said.

I like this guy!

[R. Scott]

I see nothing wrong, and Shamanism isn’t “Black Magic”.
The patient’s mental state has a lot to do with recovery time. If a string, hearing the jingle of the rings or a chant helps I’m all for it.

[RoadTest]

“How does it differ qualitatively from Christian rites performed for hospital patients? (Answer: It doesn’t in the slightest.)”

How does it differ qualitatively from Catholic rites performed for hospital patients? (Answer: It doesn’t in the slightest.)

[ottbmare]

This is not new and has nothing to do with Obama. For many years, Native Americans of various tribes have allowed shamans to come into Indian Health service hospitals and then send a bill.

Hey, they can’t be any worse than a lot of the psychologists and social workers who are allowed to come into the hospital and bill for their services!