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Soldier suspended from school (Eagle Scout, Honors Student Had Pocket Knife Locked in Car)
WTEN - Albany, NY ^ | 10/8/2009 | MARK O'BRIEN

Posted on 10/09/2009 7:48:04 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders

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To: ReagansRaiders

They allow pencils and pens at school, and I know for a fact they can be used as weapons. I’ve seen it done, and even done it myself. Seen a desk used as a weapon, too, for that matter.

Zero Tolerance policy = Don’t need to use a brain policy.


161 posted on 10/09/2009 11:48:03 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: Mr. Lucky

We took our rifles to school for JROTC and marksmanship club.
I made a custom laminate stock for an old Remington 700 30/06 in wood shop and kept it in my shop locker And this was in the early 70’s in Indiana.


162 posted on 10/09/2009 11:49:35 AM PDT by WhirlwindAttack (Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm the rest of his life ;)
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To: jagusafr
“Inexcusable. Zero-tolerance started out as a “good idea”, and the unintended consequences have been atrocious. Tell him this will probably actually help him get into Hudson High - they like the “be prepared” types! And tell him there’s one reserve Colonel proud of his preparedness and his attitude.”

Add an Air Force Master Sergeant to the folks proud of his preparedness and attitude. This country needs more people like this young man, and far fewer like that brain-dead administrator.

WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

163 posted on 10/09/2009 11:52:21 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: nina0113
Well I park in a private lot at work so that's less of an issue for me. Also legally the weapon isn't 'loaded' as the mags are NOT inserted.

The backpack is also stashed well out of sight and our lot is video monitored.

Try stashing it underneath your spare tire. Just a thought.

164 posted on 10/09/2009 11:55:22 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ReagansRaiders
You should have posted contact info for the school and principal.

Here it is.

http://www.lansingburgh.org/lhs/index.php

FReepers, let's keep it polite, but let these folks know the whole country is watching them.

WRM, MSgt, USAF

165 posted on 10/09/2009 11:56:43 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Your godson has a great future ahead of him. Don’t let this one example of bureaucratic idiocy stand in his way. Just put it behind and tell him to keep doing what he’s doing.


166 posted on 10/09/2009 12:04:21 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: sapper1975

“I actually teach at West Point. I forwarded the article to my boss who has friends at admissions. He is going to try to make them aware of the issue and hopefully this incident can be put in context and waivered if necessary. They will still have to make their own determination of course.”

Excellent! My cousin Will is in Iraq now, and guys like this kid are the kind of people I want leading him and his troops over there. Thank you for helping to teach all those kids how to do a very demanding and necessary job.

WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


167 posted on 10/09/2009 12:20:52 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Interesting. I used to trade ammunition with a son of a school committee member, and one of the teachers (a liberal ...very liberal actually...but a Vietnam Cav Veteran) knew of it and thought nothing of it. I’d be interested to know the military backgrounds of the school committee and administrators involved. It almost seems as if the kid were targeted, the way the story is written.


168 posted on 10/09/2009 12:23:44 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: ReagansRaiders

anything “that reasonably can be considered a weapon.”

Absurd criteria....what about: tire irons, baseball bats, screwdrivers, hammers?

Where does this stupidity end?


169 posted on 10/09/2009 12:26:14 PM PDT by JSloth (I miss RR!)
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To: ReagansRaiders

169 posts, not one replied to by you, RR. Where are ya?


170 posted on 10/09/2009 12:40:26 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: Lurker

Zero-tolerance was a response to the obvious futility of trying to win the War On Drugs.

The True Believers thought that re-doubling their fanaticism, and throwing all logic and reason out the window would curry favor with their Sky Gods of Prohibition.

Now we’re stuck with the cowardly idea, at least until Eagle Scouts start demonstrating the difference between a pocket knife and a real weapon to their oppressors, up close and personal.


171 posted on 10/09/2009 12:58:24 PM PDT by Palin Republic (Palin - Bachmann 2012 : Girl Power!)
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To: WhirlwindAttack

There are many great things about the state of Indiana; letting kids take guns to school can be added to the list.


172 posted on 10/09/2009 12:58:24 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Palin Republic
at least until Eagle Scouts start demonstrating the difference between a pocket knife and a real weapon to their oppressors, up close and personal.

Can't say as I'll be sorry to see that day come.

173 posted on 10/09/2009 1:09:50 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ReagansRaiders

It is obvious to me more and more every day that this is not the planet that I was born on.

Or maybe it is the same planet, but at some point, at least half the people were replaced by duplicates that look human, but are completely bereft of any ordinary human capacity for reason and judgment. That’s the only way to explain this idiotic “zero tolerance” nonsense.

Unfortunately, it appears that the half of the population that are bereft of reason and judgment are all educators or politicians.


174 posted on 10/09/2009 1:10:39 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: BluH2o

From their website:

Please submit information on a Lansingburgh High School graduate who deserves recognition for an outstanding academic achievement, career or life accomplishment, community or citizenship acknowledgement, fascinating endeavor, etc. We want to hear it all!

Looks like this young man is just what they are seeking!!!


175 posted on 10/09/2009 1:39:34 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Wanted, newer tag line in good condition.)
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To: ReagansRaiders

I hope they sue the crap out of the school district.
Give him a hug from me.
Mom of two Eagle Scouts...


176 posted on 10/09/2009 1:53:52 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: SandRat

did you see this?


177 posted on 10/09/2009 1:57:13 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: RaceBannon

in 5th grade, Armin Harnedy brought in his father’s M-1 rifle to school for show and tell. The principal insisted he bring it to the office first so the principal could remove the firing pin, then Armin was allowed to bring it in class. Safety first. My Junior High used to be the high school when it was first built in the 50’s. It has a rifle range in it’s basement.

Race, In the 8th grade, one of my class mates brought in his hunting rifle in to that same junior high. He wrote a long report about hunting for our English class. He took the firing pin out. Some jerk went into the room where the rifle was stored and found some bullets that were in the rifle case and started to throw them to the floor trying to set them off. None went off. The idiot was suspended. I will freep mail you and give you the name. You probably remember him. This guy was on the football team. He dropped out of school 3 months before graduation to join the service. Right before he dropped out he got a Mohawk haircut. The Marines threw him out for his misbehavior within a few months.

I remember Armand too. He lived on Jackson St. I went over his house one time and he showed me some old classic car from the early 60's in his garage that he was restoring.

178 posted on 10/09/2009 2:23:05 PM PDT by dancusa (Czars Czuck)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Next school board meeting ask em all if they have a tire iron or lug wrench in their trunk an then demand they resign for violating their own zero tolerance policy. .

As a former Deputy Sheriff I would shoot the attacker with a tire iron just as I would an attacker with a knife

Ask them where the insanity stops. Tire iron is not an acceptable answer.

Sorry for yer troubles. Respect to Matthew for all his efforts to excel.


179 posted on 10/09/2009 3:05:43 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: MarMema

Yes and all I can do is shake ny head first at the injustice done and secondly at the sheer stupidity of the school district.


180 posted on 10/09/2009 3:42:55 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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