Posted on 10/08/2009 12:03:15 PM PDT by thouworm
But the clear truth is that a vote for cloture is a vote for Obamacare, and not just its ruinous impact on Medicare for seniors and medicine generally but also for the trickery that is obscuring the real and vast costs of the bills and the refusal to allow the American people the opportunity to see and read what it is they are being obliged to sacrifice their health care and benefits for.
See link to contact these 8 Senators (phone #'s and link to email provided)
If this monstrosity passes then we don’t have much of a representative republic anymore.
They are........but they aren’t listening!
No Obamacare
No Medicare
No Medicaid
No Socialized Medicine in the USA!
Take the time to read it all, then contact all the Democrats on Hugh’s list. As Hugh suggests, tell them that if they vote yes on any cloture, you will help fund their next opponent and do whatever it takes to defeat them at the polls when next they stand for re-election.
If you’re a senior, or plan to live long enough to be one, your life could very well depend on stopping Obamacare. Without a doubt, Medicare and American medicine as we now know it most definitely depends upon stopping it.
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2009/10/hugh_hewitt_a_y.php
Methinks that everyone understands the cloture trick, if not explain it to them. The cloture vote is the real vote.
Keep calling and faxing.
Google the Rep and Senators names on google.
Write down ALL the voice and fax numbers on a piece of paper. DC and in-state numbers.
Type up a note. I started with “Leave our Medicare alone!”
A short paragraph note is fine. Save it to word or notepad.
Go to www.faxzero.com or www.gotfreefax.com.
Both sites allow 2 FREE faxes a day so you can send 4 a day.
You have to change the name of the politician. It is very simple. It takes one minute a day. teach your kids, freinds, neighbors how to do it plus also keep calling. Call DC and in-state offices.
what link ?
Eight Democratic senators stand between the Medicare and the destruction of the senior health care program as well as the ruin of American medicine generally. These eight know the stakes and have written Harry Reid to demand that the Democratic leader slow down the jam down so that they and the public know what they are voting on and what it will cost. They have asked for at least 72 hours and a CBO estimate for any Obamacare bill before a final floor vote occurs, as well as 72 hours and a full CBO score before any vote on a future House-Senate conference report occurs.
These demands are a dodge because any of these eight have the ability to enforce any amount of delay they want via a refusal to vote for cloture whenever that debate-limiting motion is put forward by Reid.
To review: The Senate’s rules provide that it requires 60 affirmative votes to pass a motion ending debate on any legislative proposal. Thus if even one Democrat refuses to go along with this Obamacare jam down that will devastate Medicare, the entire bill halts until and unless that Democrat is satisfied it is a good idea. Thus every Democrat has the individual ability to demand a serious, careful debate and serious, careful budget impact analysis.
Some Democrats hope to protect themselves against the people’s fury at the polls in November 2010 by voting for cloture and then voting against passage, but that won’t work in this hyperattentive new media age.
A vote for cloture is a vote for everything in the Obamacare package that would end up on the president’s desk. Everyone knows this, but some Democrats hold out hope that their genuine responsibility for Obamacare will be obscured by various posed votes. In this sleight-of-hand they hope to be helped by Manhattan-Beltway media elites that will do what they can to obscure accountability on the cloture votes ahead.
But the clear truth is that a vote for cloture is a vote for Obamacare, and not just its ruinous impact on Medicare for seniors and medicine generally but also for the trickery that is obscuring the real and vast costs of the bills and the refusal to allow the American people the opportunity to see and read what it is they are being obliged to sacrifice their health care and benefits for.
When will these PRICKS stop their constant push back?
Link to the 8 Senators phone #’s and links to their email addresses:
http://hughhewitt.com/blog/g/62475c8e-e8b4-4272-aa5e-ae4324354a89
Let's see, you support Medicare and Medicaid which is a Single Payer Socialized Medicine Program, but you oppose an extension of Socialized Medicine in the form of Obamacare?
Why not be consistent and oppose all forms of Socialized Medicine including Medicare and Medicaid?
Is the Executive Branch, the Democrat Party, and the Democrats in Congress running a crime syndicate?
Is that question rhetorical?
I called my two Senators today, neither was committal — It’s as if they were instructed to say, hey don’t ask me what I am going to do. Very evasive.
I made sure they knew the cloture vote is the only vote that counts.
Yes, I know what you mean! I was going to say that the people deserve this for voting Democrat. I tried to warn them!
What state?
Why should we Leave our Medicare Socialized Medicine alone!
Why not simply abolish the Socialized Medicine Programs known as Medicare and Medicaid and let the Free Market provide health insurance for those customers?
I think that’s a debate for later. Obamacare is not about healthcare! Right now the Obama administration is attempting to confiscate private industry and create a fascist state.
It’s a matter of priorities. Save the country first. ObamaCare is not about health; it’s about wealth.
PS I would say, as you did as well, that people should be mesciless towards all Democrats with a hand in allowing this to go forward. If anything, the ones allowing a vote and then pretending to be against it deserve the worst electoral blows.
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