Posted on 10/07/2009 7:15:22 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
But Congressional aides said that less than 10 days after Mr. Zelaya was ousted, Mr. Noriega and Lanny J. Davis, a confidant of Mrs. Clinton and a lobbyist for a Honduran business council, organized a meeting for supporters of the de facto government with members of the Senate.
Mr. Fisk, who attended the meeting, said he was stunned by the turnout. I had never seen eight senators in one room to talk about Latin America in my entire career, he said.
As President Obama imposed increasingly tougher sanctions on Honduras, the lobbying intensified. The Cormac Group, run by a former aide to Senator McCain, John Timmons, signed on, records show, as did Chlopak, Leonard, Schechter & Associates, a public relations firm.
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What happens in Honduras may one day be seen as either the high-water mark of Hugo Chávezs attempt to undermine democracy in this hemisphere or as a green light to the spread of Chavista authoritarianism,
Any questions on who the zero supported and why?
He probably never saw a U.S. president deliberately try to destabilize the most pro-American country in Latin America, either.
“Destabilize” is really an understatement. Its obvious he wants to terminate our democracy and our freedom by turning us into a communist-chavista state.
How is your election coming along? I am hoping Honduras can run out the clock and the rest of us will accept the result.
Amazingly the NYTs reports a good deal of truth here. The author may have set a record for the use of the transparently false propaganda meme “defacto government” but that would only impress the easily led.
I think it’s going well. We are 7 weeks away from the election and I feel that everyday the world is more convinced that the elections are the way to end the political crisis. I also feel that everyday the rest of the world is gradually understanding what really happened, and the world is gradually ignoring Zelaya. These are all good signs.
But, on the other hand, I still feel that Chavez is planning something, some last minute offensive just a few days before the elections to try to convince the world not to recognize the elections. Maybe even kill Zelaya to make him a martir and pay mobs to cause caos.
An interesting fact that nobody has mentioned is that there have been very few deaths during this political crisis. This is proof that Zelaya’s mobs are paid to protest. If they would really believe in their cause there would be thousands of deaths by now.
Would be fitting for someone, anyone to snuff Mel, right after the election, just to show Hugo and nobama.
In another 7 weeks the Brazilians will zap him for screwing up a nice quiet deal they had working at the Embassy.
Over-reaching is usually the downfall of dictators. And this may apply to Hugo Chavez AND Barack Obama.
Whatever happens, Latin Americans will take note and make adjustments accordingly.
When they smuggled Zelaya into Honduras, their plan was to get a mob of half a million people to take him back into the Presidential Office. This was supposed to be a well planned operation, and even with all their drug and oil money to pay mobs, all they could get was 3 to 4 thousand people.
This demonstrates that Zelaya has no real support, and Hondurans, even the poor campesinos, do not swallow the communist-chavista BS. This is a historical fact too, during the cold war in the 80’s Hondurans did not swallow the communist BS either.
I’m surprised Chavez hasn’t created an armed insurgency inside Honduras based out of Nicaragua. This possibility has worried me ever since Zelaya created the constitutional crisis. It may be that—as you say—it is too difficult for the marxists to find native Hondurans of like mind. And such a scheme might easily be traced back to Chavez.
I believe our millitary is disciplined and well trained. During the Cold War 80’s they were really hard against communists, hundreds of “desaparecidos” were kidnapped, tortured, killed and burried in secret cemeteries. No dead body = no crime. After 10 or 15 years the bodies were found, but by then the Cold War was over. We have an old saying here that “without dogs there’s no rabies”.
Considering that, what do you think would happen to an armed insurgence of communist-chavista rebels? That would give the millitary the excuse they’ve been waiting for, self defense.
If Chavez was to directly attack Honduras he would beat us in a heartbeat, Venezuela has an infinitely bigger and better armed army, but that war would be impossible to justify for him.
Obama reviles the Honduran Constitution because he believes personality trumps constitutional government.
And if the personalities are leftists, he’s really cooking with gas.
What a sick man
I miss Ronald Reagan. Speaking of sick men, even in his last days with Alzeimer, Ronald Reagan would have made better foreign policy decisions than a “healthy” 0bama.
That's reassuring. I believe Obama’s policy will shift away from Zelaya after the election. From what I've read, Greg Craig—special counsel and presidential assistant—influenced Obama’s decision not to recognize the new Honduran president and to halt U.S. aid. Craig also recommended the one-year deadline to close the Guantanamo detention facility. Both these policies are stupid and dangerous and threaten to blow up in Obama’s face. Craig is supposed to be on his way out.
Great post.
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