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To: BP2
That's assuming that some Hawaii newspaper employee in 2009 accurately confirmed that his newspaper in 1961 — possibly before that employee was even BORN — that Hawaii newspapers "REPORTEDLY" accepted birth notifications ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY from the State Registrar

No reliance on a 2009 employee is required. However, you do have to assume that in 1961, when originally reported, neither newspaper printed a false statement at the top of the announcements saying "Health Bureau Statistics." Obama's birth announcement appeared in the "Health Bureau Statistics" list in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin in August 1961.

In other words, no one needs to rely on what anyone says in 2009. They just have to decide whether they believe the newspapers were lying in 1961.


That's compared to Obama's newspaper birth announcement which is likely a "vanity" birth announcement, paid for by his mother or grandmother.

To accept the theory that that is even possible, much less likely, one has to accept the premise that both newspapers printed false information in 1961.

The Star Bulletin still publishes, every Sunday, vital statistics filed with the state Department of Health's Vital Statistics System, although at some point between 1961 and today, they stopped publishing actual date of marriage/birth.

The Honolulu Advertiser publishes "vanity" birth announcements, but requires parents to attach a copy of the official state-issued birth certificate, and will not print a birth announcement without it.


1,219 posted on 10/08/2009 5:01:50 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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neither newspaper printed a false statement at the top of the announcements saying "Health Bureau Statistics." Obama's birth announcement appeared in the "Health Bureau Statistics" list in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin in August 1961.

Seeing that less than 25 percent of the public believes what newspapers and the rest of the MSM reports, forgive me if I don't believe that "Health Bureau Statistics" banner.

Prove that the DOH of Hawaii actually provided the information EXCLUSIVELY to newspapers, and in the manner described.

Just because the title says, "Health Bureau Statistics", it does NOT mean that the newspapers did NOT accept vanity birth announcements from family without a birth certificate in 1961 — nor does not mean that the DOH provided the information EXCLUSIVELY to the newspapers.

Also, where's the Nordyke's birth announcements?


1,224 posted on 10/08/2009 5:32:01 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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