News from Alan Keyes: Judge Confirms Eligibility Trial to Proceed

AIPNews.com ^ | October 7, 2009 | Alan Keyes

[EternalVigilance]

By Alan Keyes
October 7, 2009
Loyal to Liberty

 

I just received a call from Orly Taitz, my attorney in the case seeking proof of Obama's eligibility for the Office of President of the United States. Judge Carter has released a statement declaring that the dates he set for the hearing and trial on the eligibility issue are confirmed, and it will move forward as scheduled. Apparently he was not swayed by the Obama lawyer's arguments.

Loyal to Liberty ...

[curiosity]

Do not confuse trumanzdog with the facts, he always sticks to the DOJ talking points.

First of all, it's bad manners to mention a Freeper without pinging him.

Second of all, just because someone happens to be mistaken doesn't mean he's a propagandist mindlessly sticking to some talking points. It is possible to be wrong in good faith, as I am sure Trumanzdogz was in this case.

[etraveler13]

Incorrect. If Obama is found “Ineligable”, he will be removed from office. If he is a naturalized citizen, he will be tried for treason, remember he is a constitutional lawyer, so that is malice aforethought. Biden could not become Pres, because his ticket is fraudulent. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, and Howard Dean are complict as co-conspirators, as they vetted Obama, so jail time is in their future. Probably, it would be Ex-President Bush, who would retake the reigns until a new President is Elected. It would be virgin teritory, and would set new precidence. Since Bush is the last standing president, with the most recent experience, he would be the logical choice, however, there is a list to go down, and 95 year old Steny Hoyer would be next in line...
It will be interesting to say the least.

[sourcery]

Would that stuff be null and void (I hope)?

Yes, instantly and retroactively. Although it might take yet another SCOTUS ruling to convince everyone.

[SaraJohnson]

Yes. If Orly is allowed a hearing, we should not forget to find out who that stink was and go after him and Land with the rest of the traitors to the constitution.

[etraveler13]

The best part, is that all appointments are cancelled, all bills signed...moot..Obama and anything he ever did, never happened...A second chance America, I hope we do better with it this time around....JMO.

[mlo]

"No you could not answer a very simple legal question that exposed the nonsense you were posting. Fail."

So you keep saying. Funny though, you never actually manage to tell anyone what the question was.

[stockpirate]

I think you mistook me for someone who cares what you think. Let me know if I wrote something that lead you to think that.

But he is a noted troll on FR I do believe.

[Lundy_s Lane II]

Is it true? Do we finally have a chance to get discovery and get the long form released?

Need to get the popcorn and read the entire thread.

I need some good news.

[Sibre Fan]

The parties were just informed of this document today, but the date issued is not today.

Correct. The Court posted its minutes from October 5 on October 7. Orly apparently misread the minutes as an order, and misunderstood that it was just recording what happened on Monday, thinking (wrongly) that this was something new.

[freekitty]

You are probably right.

[freekitty]

She is Speaker only now.

[curiosity]

Yes.

I find the internet "factoid" about McCain being born in Colon to be truly remarkable. It really amazews me how a single forged document quickly resulted in a falsehood becoming the conventional wisdom among not only birthers, but also birther debunkers, even though it doesn't take much digging to discover the truth.

This blog post has links to both the McCain birth announcements as well as the Washington Post story by the reporter who saw McCain's real birth certificate:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/02/the-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery/

There's also some amateur document analysis in the blog post that I wouldn't put too much stock in. To me, the birth announcement along with the Washington Post's examining of the real McCain BC is what is decisive.

[stockpirate]

There is an order within this release today. He ordered that the dates were no longer tenetive.

[sourcery]

Incorrect. If Obama is found “Ineligable”, he will be removed from office.

Logically and legally impossible. You can't "remove" someone from an office they do not hold (and have never held.) That point is beyond any further argument.

The only point to be argued is whether Obama is POTUS. If he is, then he could be removed for whatever reason pleases Congress. Otherwise, it is an outright impossibility.

I cannot imagine any possible SCOTUS ruling having to do with his being (or not being) a "natural born citizen" that would a) find that Obama is POTUS, and b) displease the Congress enough to impeach him. So either he is POTUS and will so remain until his term expires, or he is not POTUS, and the potential future SCOTUS ruling to that effect will require no further action by Congress (other than dealing with the matter of who will be POTUS.)

[Frantzie]

Go back and read the post. You seem incapable of answering the question. I will not do your homework for you.

[rocco55]

Why all this buzz over Keye’s announcement....supposedly BP2 confirmed that the quote was made by Judge Carter on 10/5 ?

Doesn’t appear to have any validity at this point, especially since both Orly and Kreep said judge had ‘different’ mindset than prior hearings....Kreep actually said he would be surprised if Judge approved discovery at this point, which didn’t sound too promising ...Orly said the judge scolded her for requesting that people send letters to the Judge, but when she attempted to explain that she never did that, he cut her off (?) Overall, didn’t sound like a good day in court for the Plaintiffs, but as I stated, I REALLY hope I am wrong...thx

[browardchad]

Flame away. I haven't been accused of being on Obama's payroll in nearly 48 hours. But then have the decency to ping me when Judge Carter does rule on the motion to dismiss.

I notice you've not received a programmed response. Let me help:

OBOT!

You'll have to wait for the official accusers for the more colorful adjectives, but I hope this helps. ;-)

[Non-Sequitur]

However, does that also apply to crimes committed before taking office, or is that only for crimes committed while in office?

Separation of powers prevents a president from being indicted for anything while in office. That includes crimes committed before being in office as well as those committed while in office. If Obama committed fraud before the election he'd still have to be removed from office before he could be tried.

[Non-Sequitur]

If the 2008 presidential election was fraudulent; I would think George W. Bush is still POTUS.

George Bush's term ended at noon on January 20th. Regardless of what happens to Obama neither he nor Cheney have any role in government any longer.

[deport]

I haven't read the thread but here is one report on this subject. [click the following in the below posting for further info: ----"Here’s one of the Web sites that’s saying that".----- ]

No ruling yet on Obama birthplace lawsuit dismissal

October 7th, 2009, 3:06 pm · Post a Comment · posted by Martin Wisckol, Politics reporter

There seems to be a fast-spreading rumor that U.S. District Court Judge David O. Carter has thrown out a motion to dismiss the lawsuit challenging President Barack Obama’s legitimacy as president. Here’s one of the Web sites that’s saying that.

Carter could rule at any moment - or next week - but he hasn’t made a decision yet. The evidence being presented that he has ruled is simply his order confirming trial dates should that suit proceed. A jury trial would start next Jan. 26.

I haven’t spoken to plaintiff’s attorney Orly Taitz about this, but I spoke to plaintiff’s attorney Gary Kreep and he confirmed that there has been no ruling yet issued on the defense’s motion to dismiss.

Click here for my report on Monday’s hearing on the motion to dismiss.