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Lose Afghanistan, Lose Pakistan, Lose Iran, Lose It All
American Thinker ^ | October 06, 2009 | By James Lewis

Posted on 10/06/2009 12:47:36 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 10/06/2009 12:47:37 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Obama hasn’t responded to General McChrystal’s advice yet, has he?


2 posted on 10/06/2009 12:52:48 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: neverdem

What were the words? “If things get difficult, I will side with the Muslims.” (I might have a couple of those wrong, but the intent is correct).

Could a person not argue that it is critical to the strategy of effecting abject failure of the US military in the ME, so as to hasten Islamic preeminence? Then, we would be certain that military families would know who’s boss in this country.


4 posted on 10/06/2009 12:58:51 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: neverdem
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If we lose in Afghanistan and the Taliban win, and they can combine with their brethren in Pakistan to get control over a nuclear weapon, and we will see an Al Qaeda look-alike with nukes. That's what Cheney and Bush were warning us about. India can't afford that, and they are quickly arming up. China can't afford it either.

Wrong. The Chinese have been explicit in saying to one another and to us, for the last 40 years, that they can afford a general thermonuclear exchange, and still prevail.

Some people think that's why the Chinese have been secret and not-so-secret proliferators. It's called "the borrowed knife strategy". Arm the crazies, start a general exchange among the designated losers, and then mop up.

5 posted on 10/06/2009 1:11:19 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: nickcarraway
Obama hasn’t responded to General McChrystal’s advice yet, has he?

Nancy Pelosi was on "Charlie Rose" tonight, telling Charlie's audience that she agrees with Joe Biden: No more troops for Afghanistan, man up, Barack, and do what your Moonbats want you to do.

6 posted on 10/06/2009 1:13:28 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem

we need to be using FAE’s and forget the ROE’s


7 posted on 10/06/2009 1:14:08 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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we need to be using FAE’s and forget the ROE’s

Huh?

8 posted on 10/06/2009 2:05:38 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: lentulusgracchus

“Nancy Pelosi was on “Charlie Rose” tonight, telling Charlie’s audience that she agrees with Joe Biden: No more troops for Afghanistan, man up, Barack, and do what your Moonbats want you to do.” - lentulusgracchus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2354876/posts?page=120#120


9 posted on 10/06/2009 2:16:27 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (A Socialist becomes a Fascist the minute he tries to enforce his "beliefs" on the rest of us.)
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To: neverdem
"You can't have both"

In fact there is no trade off between them whatever. It is just an ideological fact that those committed to international retreat on the part of the entire west, are also committed to replacing merit and markets with handouts and victim politics domestically. There is a common self hating philosophy behind both. That is all. It is purely voluntary, every scrap of it.

10 posted on 10/06/2009 2:18:48 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: lentulusgracchus

Times and situations change. It was a very different China 40 years ago when they adopted this attitude. At that time they had little or nothing to lose, just a lot of people they couldn’t afford to feed and care for. Now they have a lot to lose having become one of the financial powers of the world. That’s not to say they have completely given up their position of “go and ahead and nuke us, we can take it and give back,” but they are probably less likely to employ that defense in practice.


11 posted on 10/06/2009 2:39:45 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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To: Matchett-PI
If Zero is doing what you're accusing him of doing, of holding support for our troops in the field hostage to his getting his Fascist Healthcare package, then he deserves to be flogged out of the country.

Where did you hear the 'Rats are doing this?

12 posted on 10/06/2009 2:45:26 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem
[Article] Obama is now where he dreamed of being: Making a huge life-or-death decision on civilization. He has never shown any comprehension of America's strategic aims and doctrines in the last sixty years.

Beside the point. Obama was educated by Communists and Mau-Mau's.

HE DOESN'T CARE.

13 posted on 10/06/2009 2:52:18 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem; nickcarraway; M. Espinola; Quix; All
Obama is acting like a total coward. Islamic fascists will take advantage of this little boy very quickly. Right now he is looking to the UN to solve his problems. Which makes him a world class idiot. Far better to have the world concerned about what you might do, than be confident you will do nothing but 'talk, talk, talk.'

Obama will go down in history as even worse than Carter. His total focus is on government health care i.e. ruining the health of millions of seniors.

0 follows the orders of Soros and other wealthy NWO creeps. The secret agenda calls for population control, eugenics, euthanasia, and wiping out 'all useless eaters.'

Check my freeper page to learn more. There is a hot link to check all my posts.

14 posted on 10/06/2009 3:19:07 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: nickcarraway

Nope. His national security staff is supposed to be holding a strategy meeting this week, maybe today, to discuss the entire issue. Meanwhile, he is off on a week long publicity tour to sell their Heath Car Debacle to our school kids.


15 posted on 10/06/2009 3:27:00 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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To: neverdem

Obimbo looks like the skinny, 18 year-old, rent-a-cop at the bank to the thugs of this world. He poses no threat to them and his only speed is reverse.


16 posted on 10/06/2009 3:53:58 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Buck Ofama!!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I think he cares . . . to please satan . . .

and to be as effective a DESIGNATED DESTROYER OF THE USA

as he can possibly be.


17 posted on 10/06/2009 4:13:31 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: lentulusgracchus

INDEED! INDEED!

They think that even a 70% or more loss of their people is acceptable.

The survival of their culture on top of the heap is sufficient goal for them.


18 posted on 10/06/2009 4:14:56 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ex-Texan

As you know:

this is the goal:

i.e. ruining the health of millions of seniors.


19 posted on 10/06/2009 4:17:21 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: neverdem
This is THE best article I've read on this subject to date. It makes the situation crystal clear, and also the required course of action. I understand it, and I'm not strong in my understanding of foreign policy. I'd be willing to bet that Zero doesn't, and doesn't much care, mostly due to the broken lens of Marxist ideology that he sees the world through. Electing this clown was the WORST possible choice the American people could have made, and we're all going to pay dearly for it.

State Run Media lap dogs - are you happy? You mostly live in the cities and metropolitan areas that are going to suffer from Zero's stupidity. You deserve all the suffering this will bring.

20 posted on 10/06/2009 4:20:30 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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