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Russian FM: Iran enrichment deal just needs finalizing (Russia to enrich for Iran?)
Jerusalem Post - AP ^ | Oct 5, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 10/05/2009 7:25:41 AM PDT by VRWCTexan

Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Monday that a plan for his country to help enrich uranium for an Iranian reactor has yet to be finalized....

IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei has said experts will meet in Vienna on October 19 to discuss the deal for Russia to take some of Iran's processed uranium and enrich it. He said Iran would take part.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; russia
Why does this seem like a really stupid idea?
1 posted on 10/05/2009 7:25:42 AM PDT by VRWCTexan
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To: VRWCTexan

It just buys time really. Iran’s uranium would be out of the country for about a year and when it is returned it would be in the form of fuel rods which are not suitable to nuclear weapons material. The problem is, this deal doesnt stop Iran from produced more uranium in the future.


2 posted on 10/05/2009 8:05:46 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora

True - and also true that North Korea took their supply of “fuel rods” and converted those into weapons


3 posted on 10/05/2009 8:38:18 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: maquiladora
Good post. Further, the Jerusalem Post has curiously omitted a few salient facts:

The deal was finalized on Friday. If the Russians don't do the enriching, the French were ready to step in.

With American approval.

We built the Tehran Research Reactor (TRR) in 1967 and we supplied it with 19.75% low enriched uranium (LEU) until 1992 when Argentina took over. Their LEU is now worn out.

The TRR's LEU produces medical-use Molybdenum 99 which is a "preservative" for, and decays into, the very short-living Technetium-99m which produces powerful gamma x-rays for medical use.

Iran cannot produce enough Moly 99 and about half is lost during import. If Iran wants another 5 year supply of medical-diagnostic Moly 99 they will have to ship all of their LEU (1508 kg @ 4.4%/UF6) to Russia for a year and get it back as unweaponable fuel rods for TRR. Even that will be about 700 kg short.

Iran is out of yellow cake and this deal effectively guts their nuke program. Iran has not been able to enrich LEU past 4.4% for a number of technical reasons I could go into. They are stuck, we are blocking their access to more yellowcake and they are making the best use of their UF6.

Iran may truly be developing (somehow?) the bomb but we cannot let them or Israel to push their hysterics past us.

4 posted on 10/05/2009 9:03:09 AM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: VRWCTexan
NK reprocessed their own spent plutonium rods, a totally different process, and technically very simple, than reprocessing spent uranium.
5 posted on 10/05/2009 9:06:01 AM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: VRWCTexan
True - and also true that North Korea took their supply of “fuel rods” and converted those into weapons

North Korea did that to make a plutonium weapon. Its an entirely different process than how nuclear weapons are made from highly enriched uranium.

6 posted on 10/05/2009 9:26:08 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: gandalftb
Again technically true -

....however IMHO you are missing the entire point:

Why the H-ll provide Iran with fuel rods that within a matter of months can (and likely will be) converted in plutonium based weapons

Reports indicate that the Russian built Bushehr power plant - once operating in 2010 - would generate enough plutonium for up to 12 to 16 weapons PER YEAR

Thus making all the current international fuss and hand-wringing about refining low-grade uranium totally meaningless

7 posted on 10/05/2009 9:28:41 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: gandalftb
Good post but I have a feeling that the deal won't go through. How will the Iranian hardliners be able to justify sending their entire stockpile of several years work out of the country when they refuse to even talk about even a temporary suspension of enrichment? Seems like a massive concession, and its not even something that would satisfy the Israelis, because it leaves Irans entire nuclear infrastructure intact and operational.
8 posted on 10/05/2009 9:32:57 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: gandalftb
So, why can't Iran, with all of their supposed nuke brilliance, build the bomb?

Their uranium is highly contaminated with molybdenum hexafluoride (MoF6). So?

We stopped the Chinese from finishing the Uranium Conversion Facility (UCF), near Esfahan, that would have "filtered" out the MoF6.

MoF6 has nearly the same weight and size as uranium hexafluoride UF6 (weapons grade uranium). As their centrifuges spin at 80k+ rpm, the MoF6 gets into the cascade tubing and plugs it up. That imbalances the centrifuge and it tears itself apart before the lab techs can slow down the centrifuge.

Centrifuges are so touchy that the oil residue from a wiped-off fingerprint will tear them apart.

It does not matter that they have the 50,000 centifuges they are building, or that they know how to build a bomb. They have only gone from 3.5% purity to maybe 4.4% in a year, and they are stuck at that. They have to get to 90% for a bomb small enough for a rocket.

In fact, now Russia will need a year to filter out the MoF6 from Iran's LEU before they can enrich and make fuel rods for Iran.

9 posted on 10/05/2009 9:34:46 AM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: VRWCTexan

The Bushehr reactor already has fuel. The Russians finished delivering fuel to it in Jan 2008. The final test run in Bushehr is actually due to happen in the next few days.


10 posted on 10/05/2009 9:38:58 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
The deal got signed late last Friday. It was the controlling Mullahs that actually pushed for the deal.

Iran could continue to import all the Moly 99 they need for about $1 million a year. That's nothing, why not do that? Why give up all that uranium, that cost the Iranians hundreds of millions to enrich to 4.4%?

Because Iran is stuck at 4.4% LEU, per my previous post and need much more knowledge and time to get the "lead" (MoF6) out of their UF4 in order to convert it into UF6.

There is also a political problem in Iran = hardliners (Ahmadinejad) vs. moderates (Rafsanjani). If Iran keeps the uranium, they will, verrrrry slowly, get weapons-grade uranium. The Mullahs know that the hardliners, led by the Revolutionary Guards, will contol the nukes and take over and radicalize the government and the entire Middle East. That whole Hidden Imam, Armageddon thing.

The Mullahs are barely in control now and they know that actual nukes will cause an internal revolution in Iran.

11 posted on 10/05/2009 9:53:41 AM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: maquiladora; VRWCTexan
Bushehr could produce 30 plutonium nukes a year.... That is, if you change the fuel rods every four months before the Plutonium 240 (weapons-grade) can break down. Russia will not sell them new rods until the old ones are at least three years old, ruining them for weapons use.

Besides, Iran has focussed on a uranium bomb, a totally different weapon.

12 posted on 10/05/2009 10:06:45 AM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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