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Generals: Dick Cheney, Liz Cheney are scaremongering (organized by Human Rights First)
Politico ^ | September 29, 2009 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on 09/29/2009 1:09:58 PM PDT by jazusamo

About a dozen retired generals and admirals, trying to add momentum to President Barack Obama’s effort to close the Guantanamo Bay military prison, are accusing former Vice President Dick Cheney and his daughter Liz of scaremongering about the dangers of closing it.

“It’s up to all of us to say these arguments advanced by Cheney and his acolytes are nonsense and that really what they’re doing is undermining our national security by delaying the date at which Guantanamo is closed,” retired Brig. Gen. James Cullen, a former chief judge of the Army’s Court of Criminal Appeals, told POLITICO Tuesday.

“Some of the fear issues that are being raised in this are really unfortunate. It gets people excited about things they shouldn’t be excited about and impedes doing what is critical to this country. Get that damn symbol off the table,” said retired Gen. David Maddox, a former Army commander-in-chief for Europe. “We take a setback every time somebody, whether it’s the vice president or his daughter comes out and says the things that they say….We have to get out there again and just keep pounding.”

The former vice president and his daughter declined comment on the criticism.

The former military officers, whose Washington visit was organized by Human Rights First, argued rather bitterly that the Cheneys have exaggerated the risks of bringing Guantanamo prisoners from Cuba to the United States.

“Can you imagine getting a terrorist from Guantanamo convicted and put in a federal penitentiary in your town?” Maddox asked. “Have you ever checked who the hell’s in there already? Have any of them gotten out? The person who we’re putting in is probably a heck of lot less dangerous than most of them who are already in there.”

Administration officials recently acknowledged that Guantanamo may not be closed by Obama’s deadline of Jan. 22. But retired Army Maj. Gen. Tony Taguba, who investigated the Abu Ghraib prison scandal in Iraq, said the president was smart to set a mark.

“It forces us to have an end state,” Taguba said. “It cannot be open in perpetuity because we’re having this so called long war against terrorism.”

The retired officers met Monday with Attorney General Eric Holder and planned to confer later with Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair and Deputy Secretary of Defense William Lynn.

Holder gave no indication of when the administration might settle on a U.S. site to relocate Guantanamo prisoners, the former military leaders said.

Obama announced the one-year-closure plan on his second full day in office. But the administration lost control of the legislative process in April when the Senate voted 90-6 against funding for the closure. Democrats joined Republicans, who argued that it was a foolish risk to bring suspected terrorists into the United States.

“Closing Guantanamo is of a strategic value,” Taguba said. “Seeing people in orange jumpsuits and whatever have you creates such an excitement for people to be jihadists and terrorists…It’s not helping us.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cheney; dickcheney; fearmongering; gitmo; guantanamo; gwot; lizcheney; obama
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The problem is not that they will break out of prison. The problem is that, once here, they will have access to federal courts run by politicized judges who will release the terrorists to live among us. And perhaps to kill and maim again. These former officers, although few in number, will be relentlessly hyped by the MSM. They are vile disloyal men whose ambition has overcome their love of country. We have seen this before. Think Benedict Arnold.


21 posted on 09/29/2009 1:32:55 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: jazusamo

Like Mrine Corp General Zinni Said:

“And then what”..........


22 posted on 09/29/2009 1:36:43 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

She’s over 50% on both questions, favorability and running for office, that’s pretty good.


23 posted on 09/29/2009 1:39:27 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: JohnLongIsland

Most of these “generals and admirals” are apparently also lawyers, or held the equivalent military positions. Looks like they set the priority on their loyalties. Lawyer first, officer second.


24 posted on 09/29/2009 1:45:34 PM PDT by henkster (0bamanomics: The "Final Solution" to America's "Prosperity Question.")
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To: jazusamo
So how about we hold these Generals personally responsible for any mischief these Guantanamo detainees get into after any move. If they kill someone, then these Generals elect one of their own to be executed. If they so much as spit on a guard, these Generals have to pick one of their group to be spat upon.

Sound like a plan, gents?

:::crickets:::

25 posted on 09/29/2009 1:50:07 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Colin Powell for one!


26 posted on 09/29/2009 1:52:35 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: jazusamo
We can't close GITMO. Where will we put the biggest super terrorists of all time, Barack Obama and his whole cabinet once they are tried for treason.
27 posted on 09/29/2009 1:57:48 PM PDT by jetson
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To: TexasCajun

Sarah Palin-Liz Cheney 2012

Works for me!


28 posted on 09/29/2009 2:00:01 PM PDT by Robbin (If Sarah isnÂ’t welcome, IÂ’m not welcome, itÂ’s just that simpleÂ…)
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To: jazusamo
When I read the article I was surprised Clark or McPeak’s name wasn’t there.

I would have expected both of them to be leading the "charge".

29 posted on 09/29/2009 2:00:59 PM PDT by Bob
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To: jazusamo
Obama and the Dems could close GITMO in a heartbeat it they wanted. How is Cheney or Liz preventing Obama from closing GITMO? Neither of these two are in the government. Is Obama and his ilk trying to scapegoat Cheney? Is this a political ploy in which Obama says that he wanted to close GITMO, but Cheney wouldn't let him? None of this makes much sense to me.
30 posted on 09/29/2009 2:23:46 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex

I believe it boils down to Human Rights First gathering a group of perfumed princes in the form of general officers to politically speak out against the Cheney’s. The princes are irrelevant.


31 posted on 09/29/2009 2:50:39 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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