Does he call for legal representation for animals or not? Does he want animals to be afforded the right to sue their owners or not? If he is such a powerful conservative why are we just now hearing about it? Just asking!
Poor Frum, not getting invited to all the Brie and Chablis parties cause of those messy Tea Partiers.
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Definition: “MOB” - any group of people the democrats can’t control.
And Mr. Frum... We are not amused.
Beck’s working for himself. And what’s wrong with that? That’s what people do in America, and it usually ends up good for America in some small measure.
In Beck’s case it could end up very, very good for America. He’s asking questions that need to be asked, and considered seriously. He’s making people sit up and think, and we sure need more of that.
We don’t need more white-livered, water-hearted RINOs.
Posting the work of your fellow faux conservatives again, I see.
Beck must be doing something right.
I think we should examine the facts. However, it’s also fun to snark Frum for a bit.
For example, it’s funny that he complains that Beck never actually quotes Sunstein, but then Frum didn’t quote him either.
Also, Frum says that “only 33 republicans” voted against cloture, showing republcians didn’t really oppose him; but that means only 7 DIDN’T vote for cloture, hardly a ringing republican endorsement.
And Frum notes that nearly every republican voted against him; if the most liberal republicans were voting no, there was probably something ELSE about Sunstein that disturbed them, not the animal cruelty thing.
Frum is often on the wrong side of conservative issues. But it doesn’t mean that he’s wrong about Beck’s charges against Sunstein.
And I hope most of us can agree that it hurts the conservative movement whenever we can be shown to be making up charges against people, or sounding the alarm bells for things that turn out to be nothing.
BTW, I think Frum misses a point about Obama. I’ve noticed that sometimes Obama picks someone who has a lot of actually rational views, but for a job where the person’s most radical views would come to bear.
So, Obama might pick a gun-rights person, but for a job that has nothing to do with gun rights. A job that could effect guns would go to an anti-gun person.
So maybe the Republicans weren’t voting out of fear of “lies” Glenn Beck was spouting. Maybe they really thought that, for the position Sunstein was being appointed to, Sunstein wasn’t qualified, or would be very bad for the country.
Glenn Beck is not the first to make a pleasant living for himself by reckless defamation."
Mr. Frum ... if your statements are indeed the truth, surely you have what you consider the real facts with which to prove Mr. Beck's wrong and reckless. The very same challenge has gone out to the White House and they are still silent as well.
I’m still amazed how Libs think that asking simple pointed questions and showing videos of groups and individuals caught in acts of corruption is defamation and smear.
What does Frum do on Weekends? Haunt Houses ????
Jerry Pournelle has for some years referred to this guy as “The egregious Frum”.
Seems to be a copy and paste of what the intelligentsia said about Rush Limbaugh 15 years ago.
He seems threatened by Beck, who came from working-class roots and dropped out of college after one term. Beck, like Palin, is not part of the "Insider Elite" network, and this upsets the members of the "Insider Elite".
WHO has he defamed?
For starters, Sunstein believes in regulating hunting out of existence. He told a Harvard audience in 2007 that "we ought to ban hunting." And in The Rights of Animals: A Very Short Primer (2002), he said:So, there was a quote from Sunstein in a book, saying we could grant animals the right to bring suit. That certainly sounds like what Beck was saying, and it looks like Frum was wrong.I think we should go further ... the law should impose further regulation on hunting, scientific experiments, entertainment, and (above all) farming to ensure against unnecessary animal suffering. It is easy to imagine a set of initiatives that would do a great deal here, and indeed European nations have moved in just this direction. There are many possibilities.
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"We could even grant animals a right to bring suit without insisting that animals are persons, or that they are not property," Sunstein said on page 11 of Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions (2004).
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In Radicals in Robes: Why Extreme Right-Wing Courts are Wrong for America (2005), Sunstein says:
Almost all gun control legislation is constitutionally fine.... [O]n the Constitution's text, fundamentalists [that is, gun rights supporters] should not be so confident in their enthusiasm for invalidating gun control legislation.
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"We could even grant animals a right to bring suit without insisting that animals are persons, or that they are not property," Sunstein said on page 11 of Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions (2004).
Of whom, may I ask?
The GOP and surrounding fruities doesn’t get it. No more than the Dims do. We are tired of the ESTABLISMENT screwing us.
Its the Government CLASS we are sick of.
You hearing me now?
(crickets)
I wasn’t expecting them to get it now either...
And why should I care what that loser Frum thinks?