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To: nufsed; All
There seems to be probable cause. His father was a British citizen and that may make him unqualified. There are allegations that he wasn't born on US soil and false documents posted by his campaign. I would think that would constitute probaly cause.

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His father was a British citizen and that may make him unqualified.

That argument doesn't seem to hold water. It's well known that his father was a British citizen - Obama has said so himself in writing - yet no judge has acted on it. Why would you say that is?

There are allegations that he wasn't born on US soil

You need more than mere allegations to win in court. You can allege that Obama is a shape-shifting reptile from Mars. That doesn't mean he has to prove he isn't.

Anyone can allege anything about anyone. Our system of justice protects defendants against having to answer frivolous or malicious suits by requiring the accuser to bring valid evidence to court. This is not new - this has always been the way the US system of justice has worked.

Allegations don't cut it. Hunches don't cut it. Guesses don't cut it. Evidence is the only thing that has ever cut it.

Why would you want Orly Taitz or anyone anywhere to be held to anything less than the standards of evidence?

I want to see the law of the land prevail. Don't you? The law requires proof.

false documents posted by his campaign.

Which were those?

Where are the document experts, willing to testify publicly in court and allow their own qualifications and educations to be judged? Who are the experts Taitz is relying on?

Going to court and saying that "some guy on the Internet who doesn't want to be named but who is a document expert, we really really really promise" is not evidence.

Going to court and saying "this other guy who has a lengthy criminal record has the One and Only birth certificate. Really!", is not evidence.

Qualified document experts exist.

Qualified legal minds exist.

If this is really what you believe, why don't like minded people band together and start from there? Why rely on unsubstantiated rumors, people on the Internet, and lawyers who "forget" to sign documents? Why spend money putting up billboards, when you could be hiring competent legal council?

326 posted on 09/29/2009 9:02:29 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: mountainbunny
Thanks for thoughful, respectful questions. I am not in a group. And not interested in joining. However, I do spread around what money I can to causes which are in line with my beliefs and interests. I sent an e-mail to Alan Keyes from the secretary of state's office in Cal, saying they did not check the qualifications last year. They just took the various parties' word for it alond with a signed form. I also offered to provided a deposition about my experience in San Diego in which I resigned my poll worker position because I thought the registrar may be abetting fraud by not looking into the issue.

I am representing my interest in knowing what I can about the important aspects of the person in the WH. I believe we are entitled to that, not by law, but because of the type of gevernment we have. The media failed in this responsibility last year. People bringing up the questions are treated as idiots and radicals for wanting to know the truth.

People tied to go to court last yar and several cases are still alive. People were told they don't have standing. Do we not have the right to an honest election and qualified candidates. Is that right and voting not enough to provide us standing? So ask the judges the question not me.

Last year the secretaries of state and the congress could have asked the natural birth question, but to date, we have been told none of them did. They just took his word. Have you every heard of people that crash special events and no one asks them who they are. Once in a while, they are caught during the event when someone asks the question. That is where we are with this fraud suspect. He just kept on pretending he belonged because no one stopped him at the door and asked for his papers.

It is my ubnderstanding from my reading here and various links that the COLB posted last year was not authentic.

The issue of his father's citizenship needs to be addressed by the USSC, since it is my ubndertsanding that not a lot has been settled on that issue in the past. Difficult for me to believe that the founders intended the son of a British citizen to serve as president under the definition of being "natural born." The fact that no one made a point of it last year merely indicates how hypocritical and weak the media and congress are; especially after calling for McCain's BC.

333 posted on 09/29/2009 10:19:23 AM PDT by nufsed
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