Posted on 09/22/2009 7:10:57 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
Vikings 'were warned to avoid Scotland'
Scotland is full of dangerous natives who speak an incomprehensible language and the is weather awful. That was the verdict of a series of 13th century Viking travel guides that warned voyagers to visit at their peril.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Simplistically, Southern Scotland was a mixture of Celtic tribes, whilst the north was Pictish, also probably a Celtic race, albeit an older variant hence the difference in Pictish and the other Celtic languages in southern Scotland.
Correct.
The great Scots historian Nigel Tranter believed that the Picts outnumbered the Dalriadic Celts at least 5 to 1, maybe 10-15 to 1, so the notion of a Pictish annihilation is now regarded as outdated.
The Picts and Dalriadic Celts fought each other then intermarried over time. King Kenneth McAlpine, the ‘first king of Scotland’ (843ad) was himself half-Pictish and inherited the throne due to his Pictish princess mother (the Picts only picked male rulers, but did so only from the female line-—progressive for the time)
Whats the surname?.
(pm me if you wish)
Maybe, who knows? ;-)
When I stated that Celtic Royals had fled to the Scottish lowlands during the Roman invasion, I was wrong about that. Always get confused on the subject. According to that detailed clan history, it was following the Norman invasion in the south that British Celtic Royalty from the south fled to the Scottish lowlands. Apparently the fleeing Royal families of Britain (refugees from the Normans) settled into the Scottish lowlands and at that point the British Royalty freely intermarried into the Scottish Royalty/clans of the Lowlands. So it was mostly Picts north of Hadrian's Walls unless the same refugee situation occurred back in the Roman invasion. Our clan apparently was given a large Manor house and a small Keep from Robert the Bruce for services rendered. We were supporters but not major supporters. Some of the clans got big Castles for services rendered in the War for Independence. We eventually lost all the holdings during the Jacobite Rebellions but held a couple for 300 years.
Interesting history, also small parts Polish and Austrian. I gave up tracking the Polish roots. Hitler apparently burned all their records. He had plans to exterminate the Poles. Wonder what he would have done with a small part Austrian mix like me ? Someday would like to read about the early Germanic tribes. After Rome fell they pretty much conquered all of Western Europe, Central Europe and North African Mediterranean coast. They were also the later Saxons who took England back from the Normans.
So we can assume that Hadrian's wall was meant to protect from a mix of Celtic Tribes that might have included some old Celtic Pictish ? Perhaps the newer Celtic Tribes also took up the Blue Body Painting habit and that may have led the Romans to just assume they were all Pictish ?
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