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1 posted on 09/20/2009 7:00:13 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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I hate to say it but I hope if one of our pilots follows an order to engage an Israeli plane, I’ll have to root for the Israeli. And Brez is assuming our pilots are better than theirs.

Of course, this could simply be a plan to get Israeli to attack us so we can bomb them and Iran won’t have to.


78 posted on 09/20/2009 10:16:42 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I hate all politicians, including republicans.)
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This is insanity!


80 posted on 09/20/2009 10:19:51 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: NativeNewYorker

Well we all know the cockroaches were wearing Suits and ties. Now they are out in the open. Actually advocating the killing of our ONLY true Allies in the ME.
America is absolute Chaos. Hold on this is going to be a bumpy ride.


82 posted on 09/20/2009 10:27:55 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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Shoot down our allies when they attack our enemies?

WHISKEY

TANGO

FOXTROT?

83 posted on 09/20/2009 10:30:29 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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They don't even have to use manned aircraft or come directly from Israel at all. There might be a reason an Israeli nuclear sub pokeyed it's way through the Suez Canal a few weeks ago....DUH.
86 posted on 09/20/2009 10:30:45 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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Contrast the Jewish love affair with Obama here and now calls for the US to shoot down Jewish fighters from Carter’s crazy old hack and if we do it will be the end of us..lol...can’t win for losing.

then toss in that Obama has more Jews in his inner circle than I have ever seen in my life and yet is the most kissass to Islam at the same time

sometimes it really looks like this is providential...like everything really does have to just be royally effed up and by predetermined players.


95 posted on 09/20/2009 10:44:38 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama, you suck Bro and we are kicking your butt for now anyhow)
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“They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq.”

Zbig has gone looney tunes.

Actually the Saudi’s and Gulf Emirates would be thrilled to provide Bibi with the needed airspace. Is that also “our airspace”?


99 posted on 09/20/2009 11:06:13 AM PDT by devere
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Laughable. Only a nazi Jew hater would recommend that our brave men and women should protect a psycho Iranian regime by killing Israeli pilots.


100 posted on 09/20/2009 11:10:05 AM PDT by NotSoModerate (Report dissenters to snitch@whitehouse.gov for a $4,500 tax credit)
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The Jews have ICBMs. They don’t need to use jets.

June 26th, 2002 summary: Israel has a large rocket to put satellites into space, the Shavit. If used as a missile to deliver a nuclear warhead, various experts estimate it would have a range of 4000 to 7200 kilometers, depending on the weight of the warhead.

The Jericho 3 is currently in development. It is believed to have a three-stage solid propellant and a payload of 1,000 to 1,300 kg. It is possible for the missile to be equipped with a single 750 kg nuclear warhead or two or three low yield MIRV warheads. It has an estimated launch weight of 29,000 kg and a length of 15.5 m with a width of 1.56 m. It likely is similar to an upgraded Shavit space launch vehicle. It will probably have longer first and second-stage motors. It is estimated that it will have a range of 4,800 to 6,500 km (2,982 to 4,038 miles). It is believed that the Jericho 3 is inertial guided with a radar guided warhead and silo-based with mobile vehicle and railcar capabilities

The Jericho 3 will give Israel nuclear strike capabilities within the entire Middle East. In the advent of another Israeli-Arab war, the Jericho 3 will provide a deterrent against a possible nuclear attack. It will also provide Israel a last option to prevent being overrun and will likely secure U.S. military aid, as the U.S. government will have a strong desire to advert a nuclear war in the region. The range of the Jericho 3 also provides an extremely high impact speed for nearby targets, enabling it to avoid any Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) defenses that may develop in the immediate region.

It is estimated that the Jericho 3 will be in service in 2008.(1)
AND THEY MAY BE IN USE IN 2009


106 posted on 09/20/2009 11:31:10 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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WOW! Stunning. Absolutely stunning. This is madness!!!!


110 posted on 09/20/2009 12:09:11 PM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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i dont understand this thread

we are america, not israel

we are in control of iraq right now, that is why we have 400,000 troops, contractors and supports over there. we invaded, we conquered, we control.

if anyone violates, we are not pansies, they turn around or we shoot down

what is happening to america were even conservatives are scared little girls when they see a star of david, i am not even anti-semitic i am a christ (who was a jew!) loving conservatic christian american and it is about time we threw the socalist-israeli 5th column off this american board! israel is an ally, not our boss, and if we say no and they fly into our airspace, they arent allies anymore!


111 posted on 09/20/2009 12:12:45 PM PDT by skipper18
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Ah ok. Well, I was a little foggy on just why the Israelis weren’t doing anything about their terrorist problem over there (playing the waiting game)...now I know why.


112 posted on 09/20/2009 12:16:39 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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If we were to do this, we would curse America forever. How dare this little maggot! God is saying Go ahead, make my day!


113 posted on 09/20/2009 12:21:59 PM PDT by Blogger
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Is Brzezinski some old throwback from a prior administration? I have a vague memory about him thinking back then that he should be deported.


126 posted on 09/20/2009 2:08:40 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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Zbig' Boy'll be next under the wheels of the Obama nonstop. Too bad it will only be figuratively.
130 posted on 09/20/2009 2:31:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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I dont know if I can see American Pilots really wanting to go toe to toe with an Israeli fighter escort. I’m not saying we’d lose...but real talk, they’re no slouches.


144 posted on 09/20/2009 3:58:22 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (He Who Watches over Israel will Neither Slumber nor Sleep.)
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ping


148 posted on 09/20/2009 4:13:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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This makes me weep! I can’t help it.
I’m sobbing. Oh God... Please don’t
let this happen. In Jesus name!


149 posted on 09/20/2009 4:16:56 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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Obama worked with terrorist
Senator helped fund organization that rejects ‘racist’ Israel’s existence

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=57231

Sen. Barack Obama served as a paid director alongside a confessed domestic terrorist granted funding to a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of Israel as a “catastrophe” and supports intense immigration reform, including providing drivers licenses and education to illegal aliens.

The co-founder of the Arab group in question, Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.

In 2001, the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based nonprofit that describes itself as a group helping the disadvantaged, provided a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN, for which Khalidi’s wife, Mona, serves as president. The Fund provided a second grant to the AAAN for $35,000 in 2002.

Obama was a director of the Woods Fund board from 1999 to Dec. 11, 2002, according to the Fund’s website. According to tax filings, Obama received compensation of $6,000 per year for his service in 1999 and 2000.

Obama served on the Wood’s Fund board alongside William C. Ayers, a member of the Weathermen terrorist group which sought to overthrow of the U.S. government and took responsibility for bombing the U.S. Capitol in 1971.

Ayers, who still serves on the Woods Fund board, contributed $200 to Obama’s senatorial campaign fund and has served on panels with Obama at numerous public speaking engagements. Ayers admitted to involvement in the bombings of U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s. He is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

The $40,000 grant from Obama’s Woods Fund to the AAAN constituted about a fifth of the Arab group’s reported grants for 2001, according to tax filings obtained by WND. The $35,000 Woods Fund grant in 2002 also constituted about one-fifth of AAAN’s reported grants for that year.

The AAAN, headquartered in the heart of Chicago’s Palestinian immigrant community, describes itself as working to “empower Chicago-area Arab immigrants and Arab Americans through the combined strategies of community organizing, advocacy, education and social services, leadership development, and forging productive relationships with other communities.”

It reportedly has worked on projects with the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, which supports open boarders and education for illegal aliens.


161 posted on 09/20/2009 6:01:00 PM PDT by Son House (President Øbama Turns His Back On The Oppressed During Their Darkest Hours)
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This coming from a real wonk on the foreign policy front. His record speaks for itself. As does who he worked for.


163 posted on 09/20/2009 6:13:57 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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