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Will Dow return to 14,000 ? Bet on it
MSN Money ^ | 9/14/2009 | John Markman

Posted on 09/14/2009 4:53:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

For all the talk of another big drop coming, the pieces are in place for 3 years of 15% annual increases for the giants of the blue-chip index.

It's been exactly a year since the government kicked a smoldering financial crisis into a roaring blaze by letting Lehman Brothers (LEHMQ, news, msgs) collapse. Observers this week are memorializing the mistake, but investors need to look forward -- and what they should see is that the government's later reaction to its error may have actually laid the groundwork for the greatest bull market of the decade.

For while it seems unlikely and irrational in the context of all the lousy economic news you see right now, stocks are well on their way to recovering from the Lehman jolt and ambling with all deliberate speed toward all-time highs. And they don't really care if you believe it or not.

Dow 14,000? Maybe not next week. But in three years? Not a problem.

The signs are abundant, if you know where to look: in the corporate credit markets, in employment trends, in consumer credit trends, in government statements and in corporate revenue trends. You don't need to be a statistician or an insider to see them, but you do need to keep an open mind to see why the 30 goliaths of the Dow Jones Industrial Average ($INDU), companies such as Caterpillar (CAT, news, msgs), Intel (INTC, news, msgs), Bank of America (BAC, news, msgs) and Boeing (BA, news, msgs), could see their stocks rise 15% a year for three years.

Here's what I'm seeing just in the news of the past three weeks and what I think needs to happen next.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhodjia; dow; dow10000; stockmarket; wallstreet
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To: erman
"I'll bet that the DOW will be 40,000... cause gas will be $30 a gallon a loaf of bread for $10 and my house will be worth "

Yup. The only reason I'm still holding some stock is because they aren't bonds.

41 posted on 09/14/2009 5:50:30 AM PDT by cookcounty ("Education is not the filling of a bucket, but the lighting of a fire." ---Yeats)
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To: SeekAndFind

LOL! It’ll be 6,000 or less long before before it ever hits 14,000. Who planted this article?

obama is giving another speech today- he is proposing to fix the world banking system now- he has another plan. There is nothing this genius cannot do (sarc).


42 posted on 09/14/2009 6:02:19 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: SeekAndFind

A healthy and prosperous stock market is not the product of computerized programs trading the same shares of the same worthless “zombie” companies thousands of times an hour to generate 1/10 cent per trade. That is what we have now. At the same time, personal debt is exploding and consumer credit is cratering. New jobs are simply not being created and unemployment is being intentionally under-reported. The companies that might otherwise create jobs are presently facing a massive increase in both taxes and regulations and are thus not planning to hire. Without more working Americans, even the interest on debt cannot be paid. Do the math.


43 posted on 09/14/2009 6:02:23 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It will be interesting to watch the markets today as he speaks.


44 posted on 09/14/2009 6:06:07 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: SeekAndFind

This “rebound” is a mile wide and an inch deep.

There is no strength or substance to a “jobless recovery.”

Insiders are dumping their holldings at a record pace.
Outsiders beware.


45 posted on 09/14/2009 6:12:03 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat." - Claire Wolfe)
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To: SeekAndFind

Really this is just pro-Obama propaganda. If Barry gets his way the economy will be devastated and obviously so will the stock market. I don’t know how you factor in the Obama risk into the risk/reward analysis so I’m not in stocks.


46 posted on 09/14/2009 6:18:37 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“Aside from that, I think the powers-that-be (the Federal Reserve and Goldman-Sachs and JPMorgan and the other controlling institutions), are trying to push the Dow to 10,000 to lure as many suckers back into the market as possible before they dump it and walk away with nice profits.”

Thank you. Saved me a little typing.


47 posted on 09/14/2009 6:19:06 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: SeekAndFind

If US currency is devalued by 90%, an unlikely rumor, the Dow would go to what, 100,000? So yeah, I suppose that with the coming inflation, 14k isn’t out of the question.


48 posted on 09/14/2009 6:20:58 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: SeekAndFind
Will Dow return to 14,000 ? Bet on it

Could you give that to me in ounces of gold, please?

49 posted on 09/14/2009 6:27:41 AM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: Oatka
Not quite as bad an experience, but as a senior with his home paid off, I am constantly bombarded by their brothers in the "reverse mortgage" business.

I am in the same situation as well.

The reason they are hustling these so hard right now is pending legislation to reign in their ripoff fees and prices. It's a feeding frenzy.

50 posted on 09/14/2009 6:55:59 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Roark, Architect.)
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To: MrDem
"The GOOD NEWS = The DOW just hit 14,000! The BAD NEWS = A cup of coffee costs $18 (in US $$$)

Wheel barrels full of cash to buy bread, sound familiar?

Germany 1944.

51 posted on 09/14/2009 6:59:08 AM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I didnt say it was a racist term, you did. All I asked was why lower yourself in such a fashion?


52 posted on 09/14/2009 7:09:36 AM PDT by Long Island Pete (Stupidity is in the DNA of liberals.)
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To: SeekAndFind

[Low rates combined with loan guarantees and continued government spending are just what the doctor ordered. Deployed prudently over time, they should usher in the sort of business confidence that will lead to a strong expansion of credit to consumers and companies, increases in factory lines, growth in employment and the repair of family and corporate balance sheets.]

Oh, this guy is a lunatic. But that isn’t to say he is wrong about a 14,000 Dow, that only requires 40% worth of inflation over three years. No problemo.


53 posted on 09/14/2009 8:20:42 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: FastCoyote
[Low rates combined with loan guarantees and continued government spending are just what the doctor ordered. Deployed prudently over time, they should usher in the sort of business confidence that will lead to a strong expansion of credit to consumers and companies, increases in factory lines, growth in employment and the repair of family and corporate balance sheets.

People have to be secure in their employment before they are willing to spend. With double digit unemployment, the assumption that there is going to be a mass of consumer borrowing and spending to fuel this "boom" is so much wishful thinking.

54 posted on 09/14/2009 8:33:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Carbon offsets? Sounds like the Environmental Church wants us to buy climate indulgences.)
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To: SeekAndFind

September 10, 2001 closing: 9605

September 11, 2009 closing: 9605

September 12, 2017 closing: ????


55 posted on 09/14/2009 8:39:11 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: SumProVita

“The signs are abundant, if you know where to look”

The author is looking in a tight, cramped space that smells like an outhouse...


56 posted on 09/14/2009 8:39:15 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: Thrownatbirth

Im looking for a good night time job, carjacking ,pimping ....something lucrative


57 posted on 09/14/2009 8:43:46 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Muzzle_em
I said 6 years after hussein leaves we “may” see 14,000... that is 1.5 terms of presidential Conservatism.

LLS

58 posted on 09/14/2009 9:00:35 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Long Island Pete
Well Pete... I just do not see it that way. He called me a liar and a right wing terrorist... he called Palin a liar and worse... I refuse to show respect to the man and he is not my president. I apologize if that upsets you... but there you have it.

LLS

59 posted on 09/14/2009 9:03:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: woofie

Pimp your bad self up and go see your local ACORN lady for some tips.


60 posted on 09/14/2009 9:36:57 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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