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To: nathanbedford

What the blazes gives the federal govt the idea they have ANY power to do something like this?


28 posted on 09/13/2009 1:05:55 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“Necessary and proper,” of course.

That may have been the single largest mistake in the Constitution, with the prefatory part of the Second Amendment being a close runner up.


30 posted on 09/13/2009 1:08:00 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: driftdiver
I expressed my views on the federalism aspects of this yesterday in a different context in this reply:

Barney Frank Considers Cramdown Law (real headline)

Cramming down mortgages means that the contract between lender and borrower is altered ex post facto to deprive the lender of the security bargained for. In essence, the bank loses its priority rights to the property which have been hypothecated as security for the loan and the bank is reduced to the status of a general creditor and thus defenseless to the whim of the bankruptcy judge.

So we have the government monkeying with the right of parties to make a contract. The government interferes with the right to make a contract and it does so ex post facto. This is reminiscent of the Obama administration forcing the bondholders in the Chrysler deal to give up their security to favor the unions which had contributed heavily to Obama's campaign.

Manifestly, banks are going to charge more to make loans which are unsecured.

Of course this will be justified by the fact that the government has poured $1 trillion into the banks and therefore government is morally justified in taking the security advantage away from the banks. Once the government insinuates itself into these affairs there is virtually no end to the concessions it feels justified in demanding.

For example, if the government is providing health insurance called Medicare and fat people are driving up the cost of health care because they get diabetes, the government is now proposing to make fat children attend fat camps. The government is also considering taxing sugary drinks. Ultimately, the government feels justified in telling the elderly that their health care costs too much and they must die. Once the government provides a benefit it can extract virtually any condition (read: penalty) it wants, even on people who themselves do not receive the benefit -like the Chrysler bondholders.

When the federal government has the potential power to incarcerate fat kids in fat camps it is time to consider whether we as a people should return to a government which is limited to express powers listed in article 1 section 8 of the United States Constitution. It is the departure from the authorized powers which starts the chain reaction which leads ultimately to fat camps, death panels, toilet bowls that will not flush, deficits which cannot be curbed, debts which cannot be paid and a currency soon to be as worthless as Confederate scrip.


38 posted on 09/13/2009 1:18:08 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: driftdiver

Welfare Clause, baby. That which gives them control over everything in the universe.


47 posted on 09/13/2009 1:32:55 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: driftdiver
What the blazes gives the federal govt the idea they have ANY power to do something like this?

All hail the king.

134 posted on 09/13/2009 9:27:06 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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