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You are correct. Companies didn’t move overseas because they are traitors; they moved because it was either move or die.

I would rather keep the 10% - the management - here, and move 90% of the workforce overseas, than lose 100% of the jobs.

Don’t they realize that most of those “Chinese” tires are made in China ON CONTRACT for companies like Goodyear, Coker, and Cooper? Tariffs on those tires will cost sales of those tires for US companies. Basically killing income to our own companies.

The US will continue to lose manufacturing jobs as long as the US Government and populace continue to consider business as a problem, not the solution. I know, I founded and ran a US manufacturing company in Lynnwood, WA for 7 years before I finally got fed up with the whole nightmare and shut it down. Twenty one employees - all with good pay (well above minimum, even the part-time janitor made $14 per hour), full benefits, and a fun workplace.

But the Government considers small business more-and-more the problem, not the solution. I was evil because I was a business owner (never mind my engineers made more than I did). The general public goes along with it, I must be exploiting people, I must be poisoning the Earth, I must be wrong and should have to pay more.

Enough. It’s gone, the employees were found new jobs, and it’s closed. I now work with companies in Asia (not just China) in countries where business is respected, generation of wealth is something to be pursued.

The US populace and the US Government are the problem. Companies leave not because they hate America, but because they cannot survive in what America has become. The American ideal is gone!.

Protectionists do not understand this, and refuse to admit it. So they will demonize the companies even more, rather than focus on what is the real problem. So much easier that way, you know...

The US Government and the attitude of the general populace is the reason companies outsource. Costs could be equalized if we’d be sane about the requirements placed on our companies. And the current Administration is simply making things worse.

Don’t they realize that most of those “Chinese” tires are made in China ON CONTRACT for companies like Goodyear, Coker, and Cooper? Tariffs on those tires will cost sales of those tires for US companies. Basically killing income to our own companies.

The US will continue to lose manufacturing jobs as long as the US Government and populace continue to consider business as a problem, not the solution. I know, I founded and ran a US manufacturing company in Lynnwood, WA for 7 years before I finally got fed up with the whole nightmare and shut it down. Twenty one employees - all with good pay (well above minimum, even the part-time janitor made $14 per hour), full benefits, and a fun workplace.

But the Government considers small business more-and-more the problem, not the solution. I was evil because I was a business owner (never mind my engineers made more than I did). The general public goes along with it, I must be exploiting people, I must be poisoning the Earth, I must be wrong and should have to pay more.

I think that's how we got into this problem in the beginning is where the powers that be have demonized the business owner and placed regulation on top of regulation and added taxes to boot. I think we are the second highest taxed place in the developed world. We need to reverse these policies but with Obumma in office with Pinky (Harry Reid) and The Brain (Nancy Pelosi) as his sidekicks, that will not happen.

The US populace and the US Government are the problem. Companies leave not because they hate America, but because they cannot survive in what America has become. The American ideal is gone!.

Protectionists do not understand this, and refuse to admit it. So they will demonize the companies even more, rather than focus on what is the real problem. So much easier that way, you know...

Exactly. I do admit I'm a protectionist to a degree, but as I said before, tariffs alone will not reverse this trend. I'll admit that the temporary tariffs Reagan used to help Harley Davidson did work in the 1980's where Harley said, "just give us some time" and he did. In the case of today, that will not work. I do see both sides of the issue and I think the truth is in the middle but like you pointed out, we cannot ignore the high taxes we have, the EPA regs, other regs, unions, and so on and I'm not counting the threats that Obumma will do to us in the future. We do need industry for our security and we need to work on policies at all angles, not just the tariff issues alone.

It's bad we have a slugfest here, we all need to cut it out and see each others points and work on all ends to correct this. This demonizing on all sides has to stop.