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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Check out the GDP for the period when Smoot-Hawley was in effect...in most years under Smoot....the GDP grew, especially later in the 1930s. The GDP is the real inidcator of overall economic growth.

Oops.


157 posted on 09/12/2009 7:44:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

‘When goods don’t cross borders, armies will.’


160 posted on 09/12/2009 8:21:16 AM PDT by Lou Budvis (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: 1rudeboy
That graph looks pretty good 1rudeboy.

In my bookshelf I have some american books from 1990:s about the `squeeze of the middle class´. Some days ago I saw a video, at the reason.tv channel on youtube, about how rich the middle class in america really is.

Here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvvuHREm5jg

This is really another discussion but I am not sure that free trade drives GDP growth.

Like a comment stated under the video, all the middle class toys are owned by someone else, the banks.

I am for free trade without regulation and tariffs, I am for free movement over borders (worker and goods), but on which terms do growth take place?

One can not build an economy on promises to produce in the future.

164 posted on 09/12/2009 8:43:33 AM PDT by ConfusedSwede
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To: 1rudeboy

A couple things first -

Your chart is highly compressed in and about the years in contest (Great Depression);

This can lead the drawing of the wrong assumptions when considering the legislation/acts of congress (and government in general) year by year.

For instance, the big DIP in GDP bottomed out in 1933 - htis is HARDLY visible on your chart!

Presenting data in this format essentially wipes out one’s ability to perform any meaningful analysis on the going by the fine-grained details of the day ... maybe that’s what the US Dept. of Commerce (souce of your charts?) would like ...


173 posted on 09/12/2009 9:11:14 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: 1rudeboy; ex-snook
The National Income Accounts for the Great Depression in the U.S. (1992 Prices)

Let's see if our friend the <PRE> tag will yield some tabular data:

                         GOVERN
            CON          MENT
            SUMP  INVEST PUR    EXPO IMPO NET
YEAR   GDP  TION   MENT  CHASES RTS  RTS  EXPORTS 
----  ----- -----  ----  -----  ---- ---- -----
1929  790.9 593.9  92.4  105.4  35.6 46.3 -10.7 
1930  719.7 562.1  59.8  116.2  29.4 40.3 -10.9 
1931  674.0 544.9  37.6  121.2  24.4 35.2 -10.8 
1932  584.3 496.1   9.9  117.1  19.1 29.2 -10.1 
1933  577.3 484.8  16.4  112.8  19.2 30.4 -11.2 
1934  641.1 519.0  31.5  127.3  21.4 31.1 -9.7 
1935  698.4 550.9  58.0  131.3  22.6 40.7 -18.1 
1936  790.0 606.9  75.5  152.5  23.7 40.2 -16.5 
1937  831.5 629.7  94.0  147.0  29.9 45.3 -15.4 
1938  801.2 619.5  61.3  157.8  29.6 35.2 -5.6 
1939  866.5 654.0  79.5  171.8  31.2 36.9 -5.7 
1940  941.2 688.0 111.3  174.2  35.4 37.8 -2.4 
1941 1101.8 737.1 137.3  288.0  36.4 46.5 -10.1 
1942 1308.9 719.7 72.1   692.0  23.9 42.2 -18.3 

175 posted on 09/12/2009 9:29:34 AM PDT by _Jim
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