[metmom]

I wish I understood this alliance between the YEC'ers and the ID'ers who are trying to remove all references to God in our society and replace it with 'Intelligent Designer'. The only way to combat that is to declare your faith in God as the Intelligent Designer.

And then you'd declare a *gotcha* that ID is just a way of sneaking creation in.

You guys need to decide what it is you think about ID. When it suits your purposes, it's backdoor creationism. Other times, it's trying to remove God from society.

Whatever is most convenient to use against creationists is what your current definition of an IDer is.

That's why nobody is playing your game.

[Buck W.]

“And then you’d declare a *gotcha* that ID is just a way of sneaking creation in.”

It is! Evolution and Christianity are perfectly compatible without the need to introduce more pseudoscience.

[ColdWater]

You guys need to decide what it is you think about ID. When it suits your purposes, it's backdoor creationism. Other times, it's trying to remove God from society.

I am one person, not 'You guys'. It is very strange that you would ally with a movement that has a 20 year goal of replacing God in our culture with the great ID! OTOH, it is not strange since you will not declare that God and the ID are one and the same.