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Cass Sunstein Believes Your Internal Organs Are Government Property
NewsReal Blog ^ | September 8, 2009 | Claude Cartaginese

Posted on 09/08/2009 2:24:47 PM PDT by HorowitzianConservative

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Van Jones, one of President Barack Obama’s controversial czars, is out. Now, barely two days later, the radical views of another Obama nominee are coming to light. As reported Monday on Fox News by Brian Sullivan, host of Your World, Cass Sunstein, Obama’s choice to head up the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs is advocating a plan whereby Americans would automatically have their organs harvested after death. (Sunstein has already raised eyebrows with his extremist views on regulating human behavior and his belief that animals should be able to sue humans).

Under Sunstein’s latest proposal, you could become an organ donor and not even know it.

The way organ donation works today, doctors and hospitals can only harvest your organs when you (or a spouse or relative of yours after your death) issue specific authorization (such as checking the organ donor box on your driver’s license) allowing them to do so. Sunstein wants to make it an "opt-out decision," whereby your organs would be taken after death whether it’s what you wanted or not, unless you specifically opt-out.

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To: HorowitzianConservative; All
When I pass off this mortal coil, they can have my organs.The problem they are going to have is that they are so polluited from all of the meds & toxins that I have been exposed to during my life that, my organs may not be usable!That should stick in their craw for a while.....
21 posted on 09/08/2009 2:41:33 PM PDT by TMSuchman (SEMPER FI & carry on with the plan of the day.......)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Oh, for God’s sake.

I don’t normally shout online, but this one merits an exception.

GET OFF SUSTEIN’S CASE. NOW.

This is one remarkably stupidly awful move on Glenn Beck’s part (yes, this is Glenn Beck inspired). Read the whole damned book before you pick your target. Sustein is likely the only moderate among Obama’s ‘Czars’, and that’s the one you are targeting. Brilliant. Not.

The book is called NUDGE. It is available from Amazon and brick-and-mortar bookstores across the nation. You can get it at your local public library fairly easily. Read the whole thing people, before you go away on a fool’s errand.


22 posted on 09/08/2009 2:43:08 PM PDT by RuyDiaz (westernresistance.com)
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To: La Lydia
And I would just hate to think that I didn't use up every bit of what the good Lord gave me. ;)

Used it ALL up. Every bit. If I can't throw myself over the finish line with a martini in one hand, cigar in the other, with cheering masses on the sidelines, willing my death, I will have failed.

My friends aren't invited to my funeral. Wouldn't be room for those few people. And I want folks there that are happy for the occasion.

The object of life is NOT to get out alive.

/johnny

23 posted on 09/08/2009 2:43:46 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: RuyDiaz
Does Sustien advocate forced organ donation or not?

/johnny

24 posted on 09/08/2009 2:47:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Noumenon

Bad taste, no class and trash trying to ruin the country.


25 posted on 09/08/2009 2:53:36 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Worse. They are monsters. All of them. As evidenced by the pedigree of their ideas.


26 posted on 09/08/2009 2:55:05 PM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The entier object of these murderous monsters is to keep ‘moving the goalposts’ that define life and your right to it. From birth to death, the object is to get those goalposts to meet somewhere in the center. At point, you have no right to live. Period.


27 posted on 09/08/2009 2:57:22 PM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
1. In Nudge he advocated making organ donation the default state; that is, if you didn't opt out, it would be assumed you were willing to donate your organs. Your family could opt out for you after your death. That is not even close to 'forced organ donation'. 2. Even if you don't care about that, given the totality of Sustein's advocacy (like, for example, tax breaks for individual health insurance), is he the Obama 'Czar' we should be targeting online?
28 posted on 09/08/2009 2:59:01 PM PDT by RuyDiaz (westernresistance.com)
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To: JRandomFreeper
1. In Nudge he advocated making organ donation the default state; that is, if you didn't opt out, it would be assumed you were willing to donate your organs. Your family could opt out for you after your death. That is not even close to 'forced organ donation'. 2. Even if you don't care about that, given the totality of Sustein's advocacy (like, for example, tax breaks for individual health insurance), is he the Obama 'Czar' we should be targeting online?
29 posted on 09/08/2009 2:59:43 PM PDT by RuyDiaz (westernresistance.com)
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To: RuyDiaz
Government doesn't get to decide my 'default state'.

And yes, Sustien should be one of the targets. We're embarrassed with a wealth of them.

Poor bastards have us surrounded. Nuke them all.

/johnny

30 posted on 09/08/2009 3:02:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
"In what sense is the money in our pockets and bank accounts fully ‘ours’? Did we earn it by our own autonomous efforts? Could we have inherited it without the assistance of probate courts? Do we save it without the support of bank regulators? Could we spend it if there were no public officials to coordinate the efforts and pool the resources of the community in which we live?... Without taxes there would be no liberty. Without taxes there would be no property. Without taxes, few of us would have any assets worth defending. [It is] a dim fiction that some people enjoy and exercise their rights without placing any burden whatsoever on the public fisc."

- Cass Sunstein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein

31 posted on 09/08/2009 3:04:46 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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To: Noumenon
From birth to death, the object is to get those goalposts to meet somewhere in the center. At point, you have no right to live. Period.

I keep remembering that I live in a pasture with a bunch of bulls. And how few sissy-boy liberals could cope with what I do on a daily basis. And then, mostly, I don't worry. They are welcome to bring it. I don't expect they will get very far.

/johnny

32 posted on 09/08/2009 3:06:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

If your organs were legally yours you could sell them. Try it and see what happens.


33 posted on 09/08/2009 3:10:27 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: HorowitzianConservative; La Lydia; HiTech RedNeck; D-fendr; Vigilanteman; RatRipper; Noumenon

He also tries to make the case that the money you earn is not yours. Here’s one of his quotes.

“In what sense is the money in our pockets and bank accounts fully ‘ours’? Did we earn it by our own autonomous efforts? Could we have inherited it without the assistance of probate courts? Do we save it without the support of bank regulators? Could we spend it if there were no public officials to coordinate the efforts and pool the resources of the community in which we live?... Without taxes there would be no liberty. Without taxes there would be no property. Without taxes, few of us would have any assets worth defending. [It is] a dim fiction that some people enjoy and exercise their rights without placing any burden whatsoever on the public fisc. … There is no liberty without dependency.”

Obviously Van Jones was just the tip of the iceberg.


34 posted on 09/08/2009 3:14:10 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Here is a link to Sunstein’s personal note on “Television and the Public Interest”. California Law Review

http://www.jstor.org/pss/3481228

Sunstein’s comments about the National Association of Broadcasters are rather interesting.

Additionally, I think it is instructive to note his mention of Jurgen Humbermas. Humbermas,
is a philosopher and social theorist at the famous
“Frankfurt School”.

Humbermas coined the term and social philosophy of “Communicative Action”. Here is a link to an explanation: http://www.williams.edu/Economics/papers/Habermas.pdf

There are other explanations of Communicative Action but this document was somewhat helpful for me.


35 posted on 09/08/2009 3:14:26 PM PDT by Lobbyist (capitalist)
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To: JRandomFreeper
No, they won't.

There are those of us who understand exactly what's going on. We can hear that distant thunder rolling through far-off hills. That distant thunder is war.

War is coming. Here. Soon.

Like my father before me, I have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution and the Republic against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Those who would make slaves and meat animals of us have no idea what they're facing.

36 posted on 09/08/2009 3:16:08 PM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: aquila48

Hah. I studied Marx and Hegel at university. This makes a muddle out of their Labor Theory of Value. At least get your marxism straight before talking about it in public. Anybody who can write “without taxes, there would be no liberty” with a straight face is a little nuts. I think there is no liberty without the Rule of Law.


37 posted on 09/08/2009 3:20:49 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Noumenon
War is coming. Here. Soon.

I studied war, most of my adult life. I was hoping not to study war anymore, as the song says. But whatever work my fingers find.....

And I really do want to get back to my normally scheduled life.

/johnny

38 posted on 09/08/2009 3:22:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: aquila48

Lefty to the bone.


39 posted on 09/08/2009 3:25:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Proud Sarah-Bot.)
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To: arista
If it were legal to buy and sell organs, the organ shortage would go away overnight. People would have more of an incentive to donate their organs when they die to help their family financially.

That's a great point. It could still be something that is a nominal level of cost to a recipient and their insurance to the extent of covering all funeral costs plus a nugget (say +/- $10,000 for an organ).

I figure you don't want to make it too valuable otherwise there will be people/relatives "speeding up" the death schedule.

40 posted on 09/08/2009 3:26:59 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Sam opens bar late: "If the Post Office ran its business like yours...never mind." - Cliff Clavin)
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