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Gibbs: 'Lines in the sand' to be drawn by president in address
The Hill ^ | 9/6/09 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 09/06/2009 10:42:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

President Barack Obama will "draw some lines in the sand" on his priorities for healthcare reform, but issue no veto threats on Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Sunday.

Administration officials, making the rounds on the Sunday morning talk shows, pledged that the president will detail his health reform initiative during a speech before a joint session of Congress this week, but were coy as to whether Obama would continue to vocally back a public (or "government-run") option for consumers.

"I doubt we're going to get into heavy veto threats on Wednesday," Gibbs said during an appearance on ABC's "This Week."

But the press secretary still promised greater detail.

"We prefer to outline the positive rather than the negative, but I'm sure he will draw some lines in the sand on that [healthcare]," Gibbs said.

Gibbs said that the public option, which has attracted vocal support on the left but has been met with skepticism by some centrists and most Republicans, is a "valuable component" of health insurance reform, but signaled that the president would likely not dictate whether the public option was essential to winning his signature.

Both Gibbs and White House senior adviser David Axelrod spoke of establishing "choice and competition" as the priorities for health reform, as well as furthering a healthcare "exchange."

Axelrod argued that the public option shouldn't consume the entirety of the debate over the health bill, though.

"He believes the public option is a good tool," he said during an appearance on NBC. "Now, it shouldn’t define the whole healthcare debate, however.”

"He certainly believes that a public option within this exchange would be important," he added.

The ambiguous signals about where the president will come down on the public option come as members of his own party's centrist and liberal flanks have asked for more details on Obama's plans on healthcare and the public option.

For his part, Gibbs promised greater clarity after Wednesday night's address.

"People will leave that speech knowing where he stands," he said. "And if it takes doing whatever to get healthcare done, the president is ready, willing and able to go do that."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gibbs; linesinthesand; obama; obamacare
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1 posted on 09/06/2009 10:42:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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We the People have already drawn our line in the sand. Once again, Obama is just a poseur, reacting not leading.


2 posted on 09/06/2009 10:44:47 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: NormsRevenge

Remember the America that drew “lines in the sand” against our enemies? Now, our own government is drawing “lines in the sand” against US!


3 posted on 09/06/2009 10:45:27 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare! When "natural causes" just isn't good enough!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gibbs: 'Lines in the sand' to be drawn by president in address

Geez, I hope someone let Larry Sinclair know.

4 posted on 09/06/2009 10:45:50 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That’s because to Obama, WE are the enemy he faces. He wants a subjugated communist-style dictatorship. We want freedom. How dare we?


5 posted on 09/06/2009 10:47:10 AM PDT by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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He said that while snorting a line. This Obozo president has no standing to be drawling any lines, he is a fraud and will try to override his own congress.
6 posted on 09/06/2009 10:48:11 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: NormsRevenge
"And if it takes doing whatever to get healthcare done, the president is ready, willing and able to go do that."

Translation: We will do whatever we have to in order to win this thing. Nothing will stop us.

And so, the WH continues to misunderestimate us.

7 posted on 09/06/2009 10:48:39 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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BTW. There is nothing more obnoxious than a liberal girlyman using terms like drawing “lines in the sand.” Why don’t Gibby the Moron stick to liberal terms like, the president is going to get all “wee wee’d up”. That is more appropriate.


8 posted on 09/06/2009 10:48:44 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare! When "natural causes" just isn't good enough!)
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To: NormsRevenge

‘doubt they will get into heavy threats’...means there will be heavy threats..


9 posted on 09/06/2009 10:49:53 AM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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I remember Geraldo drawing lines in the sand.......

Hmmm......

Leni

10 posted on 09/06/2009 10:49:58 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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If the President wants government in any part of his plan for our heath care, he can forget it. It's dead on arrival.
11 posted on 09/06/2009 10:50:51 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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Gibbs ... signaled that the president would likely not dictate ...

Why not? That's what he does best and what he likes to do.

12 posted on 09/06/2009 10:51:44 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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Another grievous miscalculation by Zer0. What a hoot.

The problem is that neither he nor the United States Congress are thought by the American people to be trustworthy or competent to draft any kind of legislation whatsoever.

And most particularly legislation the affect their very personal and private health care decisions.

Having Zer0 and the U.S. Congress in the same room discussing America’s health care is *exactly* the wrong way to go.


13 posted on 09/06/2009 10:51:48 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Perhaps "lines in the sand" can be erased by "oceans of public opinion"--if "the People's" elected representatives feel enough pressure from the approaching tide in 2010!

Recent events have triggered a very public citizen involvement in a battle of ideas which has been going on for decades! The problem is that, until now, most Americans went about their business and ignored it.

Today, they are engaged and beginning to learn the difference between two conflicting ideas about freedom and coercive government control. America's Founders identified the conflicting ideas as liberty versus tyranny. By Lincoln's time, he had a clear understanding of it and said this: "The world has never had a good definition of the word 'liberty.' And the American people just now are much in want of one. We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not mean the same thing . . . . The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act . . . . Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of liberty."

But Lincoln could distinguish between real liberty and a counterfeit idea. Of the American idea, Lincoln declared:

"Most governments have been based practically, on the denial of the rights of men. Ours began by affirming those rights . . . . [These opposing ideas] are the two principles that have stood face to face from the beginning of time; and will ever continue to struggle . . . . It [denial of individual Creator-endowed rights] is the same principle in whatever shape it develops itself. . . it is the same tyrannical principle."

Of the Founding principle, Lincoln said: ". . . it is no child's play to save the principles of Jefferson from total overthrow in this nation. . . .The principles of Jefferson are the definitions and axioms of free society . . . And yet, they are denied, and evaded, with no small show of success. . . All honor to Jefferson - to the man who, in the concrete pressure of a struggle for national independence by a single people, had the coolness, forecast, and capacity to introduce in a . . . revolutionary document, an abstract truth, applicable to all men and all times, and so to embalm it there, that today, and in all coming days, it shall be a rebuke and a stumbling-block to the very harbingers [initiators of threatening change] of reappearing tyranny and oppression."

Yes, the battle of ideas is re-engaged in America today, in a manner not seen for decades.

American citizens are utilizing the new technologies that make possible close examination of the Founders' ideas in many collections online such as those at Liberty USA Foundation, WallBuilders, and in new books, such as Mark Levin's "Liberty and Tyranny." They are returning to the Founders' own explanation of their Constitution in THE FEDERALIST and to 1987's Bicentennial Year volumes such as "Our Ageless Constitution." See

Just as in Lincoln's day, those who try to fool the people into believing their definition of liberty is authentic are being exposed for the charlatans they are--mere men who wish to gain power over the lives of millions.

They are being exposed by the "self-evident truths" "embalmed" in that revolutionary document described by Lincoln.

They can read the Founders' intent that ours is not a government's Constitution to limit people. Rather, it is "We, the People's" Constitution to be used, according to Jefferson, to "bind them (government) down by the chains of the Constitution."

What we are seeing now is a battle between forces who have one charismatic, but mere mortal (Krauthammer), man out there carrying the water for changing that concept in the minds of citizens who, they thought, had been dumbed down by decades of neglect and censorship of the ideas of liberty.

Providence may have outwitted them by allowing the development of technologies that make the Founders' ideas a powerful tool in the new battle.

14 posted on 09/06/2009 10:51:53 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: NormsRevenge

Remember the frequently moved “line in the sand” that Jimmah was always drawing? I think it was a strategery to confuse our enemies.


15 posted on 09/06/2009 10:51:54 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think he meant “lies” in the sand.


16 posted on 09/06/2009 10:53:43 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: NormsRevenge

That line in the sand will soon be washed away by a wave of public opinion.


17 posted on 09/06/2009 10:54:31 AM PDT by altura (Sarah for President)
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To: NormsRevenge

When in our countries history has a Pre-ent ever drawn a line in the sand against his fellow citizens? I think we are headed down a slippery slope here. Things are going get ugly fast. I take the whole line in the sand thing as a threat! I feel like we will be like the scene in Pink Floyd the wall when the kids are walking off the conveyor into the meat grinder. Well I wont be. Only the sheeple will. To their deaths and not even realizing it.


18 posted on 09/06/2009 10:54:38 AM PDT by crazydad
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The Sand in his Kenyan head Right??? This Failure is the biggest enemy wake up call since Pearl Harbor!


19 posted on 09/06/2009 10:54:49 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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20 posted on 09/06/2009 10:58:09 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support Sarah. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/sarahpalin?ref=nf)
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