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"Nudging" America to Give Up Meat
ConsumerFreedom.com ^ | September 3, 2009

Posted on 09/05/2009 3:47:23 PM PDT by Still Thinking



“Nudging” America to Give Up Meat

The number of animals and plants protected by the federal Endangered Species Act is about to increase dramatically. For Cass Sunstein, radical animal-rights activist and nominee for the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) Administrator job, that means he will be better positioned than ever to make livestock farming a thing of the past.

How are the two things connected? Our director of research appeared on the Fox News Channel yesterday to explain to Glenn Beck’s audience how much influence Sunstein may soon have over what we eat:

Cattlemen in this country own and manage most of the lands that are covered by the Endangered Species Act, that are subject to control. So you ask: Why is Cass Sunstein’s hatred and animus toward meat eating such a big deal? It’s because he’ll be in a position to be able to use the Endangered Species Act to put cattlemen out of business. And then the price of your steak goes up. And then the price of your cheeseburger goes up.

It’s not only cattlemen who could be at the business end of Sunstein’s ridiculous anti-meat philosophy. Environmental activists groups sued over the Endangered Species Act in 2006 to divert water to a habitat for a three-inch bait fish in California – taking the water away from drought-stricken farmers and costing the California economy more than 60,000 farming jobs. Imagine what would happen if activists didn’t have to sue to get what they wanted, but could just pick up the phone instead.

The future “regulatory czar” has made no secret of his coercive tactics to get Americans to eat less meat. His grand plan is to make meat more expensive to produce, which will in turn make it harder for American families to afford. Similarly unpopular tactics have been attempted in the drive to get people to drink less soda. While Sunstein couches his plans as a “nudge,” we’d say it’s more like a shove.

Hug your cheeseburgers tonight, because they too are about to become an endangered species.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: animal; animalrights; endangeredspeciesact; meat; michigan; ohio; peta; sunstein; vegan; vegetarian
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To: Yaelle
Umm. I just had lunch.
The veggie memo didn't
get to me in time...

21 posted on 09/05/2009 4:23:32 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Still Thinking; cmsgop
Hug your cheeseburgers tonight,

From my In-N-Out Burger Double/Double stained hands....

(I'd post a pic of one of these succulent creatures, but my mouse or computer is hiccuping on me lately...won't let me right click to properties....damn)

22 posted on 09/05/2009 4:25:24 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not an Obama "Administration"....it's a "Regime")
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To: ErnBatavia
From my In-N-Out Burger Double/Double stained hands....

Ooooo a 3 by 3 with Animal Fries does sound good about now!


23 posted on 09/05/2009 4:28:36 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: Still Thinking

As a LIFE LONG member of PETA I wholeheartedly DISAGREE with the poster and his message.

PETA==

PEOPLE
ENJOYING
TASTY
ANIMALS


24 posted on 09/05/2009 4:33:30 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 )VOTE THE INCUMBENTS OUT)
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To: BradtotheBone
What do you mean, "That's California." The article is talking about FEDERAL matters, not state matters. Which means your point about Texas ("I'd love to see them try that crap in Texas") is especially crucial! :^) Speaken as a Californian who grew up in cattle country and who is related to some damned good cattlemen.
25 posted on 09/05/2009 4:45:08 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Still Thinking

I’d like to “nudge” this administration and all the czars back to where they came from, Chicago!


26 posted on 09/05/2009 4:45:40 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (.)
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To: Still Thinking

Mean while, Americans continue to buy arms and stockpile...


27 posted on 09/05/2009 4:56:56 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Niteflyr

“Animal fries”

Does that mean they’re cooked in lard? If so, mmmmm...!


28 posted on 09/05/2009 4:57:35 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Niteflyr


www.bigtexan.com



29 posted on 09/05/2009 5:06:32 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Health Care Reform has met the DEATH Panel.)
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To: elcid1970
To: Niteflyr “Animal fries” Does that mean they’re cooked in lard? If so, mmmmm...!

No...but bathed in secret sauce! Still rate an mmmmmmmmm!


30 posted on 09/05/2009 5:06:55 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: Still Thinking

There is room for all God’s creatures...Right next to the mashed potato’s.


31 posted on 09/05/2009 5:16:28 PM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: Bean Counter

We’ve been doing something similar for a couple of years now, only we buy the rib-roasts from CostCo. I get a steak for dinner every Friday and sometimes Saturday. ;>)

I don’t know what it costs to do it this way, but my Bride says that we are saving lots of money. This gives us 15 steaks and as we each eat only half of a steak, we get 30 meals out of one purchase of around $70. We still buy other cuts from time to time.

We also take one deer a year from my property, my son takes one and my daughter take another... if I didn’t mind breaking the law, I could harvest as many as 3 per year without hurting the head count around here. It helps to have 18 apple trees.. LOL

We are now raising our own chickens (26 birds) for eggs and will be raising meat birds in the spring.

I may get 2 head of beef to raise, we did that in years past. I might also buy a couple of meat goats.

I fish for Chinook, King salmon, Halibut, Lingcod, Sea Bass and other bottom fish. Family members keep us supplied with Dungeness crab and various types of clams....steamers and razors.

If the government thinks it’s going to change my meat eating habits, they are going to have to kill me.


32 posted on 09/05/2009 5:32:10 PM PDT by Gator113 (YES WE CAN.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cMxJBenigY&feature=related)
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To: Jeff Chandler

That is so cruel of you to post that. We already have Lingcod out for dinner and now I want one of those..... grrrrr


33 posted on 09/05/2009 5:36:51 PM PDT by Gator113 (YES WE CAN.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cMxJBenigY&feature=related)
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To: snowsislander; Still Thinking
The Leftists and statists have bullied and bamboozled Americans to take it as conventional wisdom that livestock agriculture is a horrific inefficient use of resources, when the opposite is the truth. Resources are wasted and squandered trying to find alternatives to animal-based products.

Livestock production is about a lot more than meat. It's about chemicals, leather, medicines, textiles, glues, and essentially modern technology -- beef byproducts find their way into all kinds of things. Of a slaughtered beef animal, virtually every smidgen of that critter is used for something.

Dairy is another nutritionary staple produced by livestock, and from a chemical point of view, is vital. We human beings have to have vitamin B 12 to keep our bodies, specifically our brains, functioning, and as far as I know, the only source of B12 is from animal-based foods including meat (fowl, mammalian, seafood, even insect legs in honey, no dif; hence vegans don't eat honey), dairy, and egg yolks. People who go all vegetarian or vegan who have any sense at all supplement B12. I cannot imagine that the manufacture of artificial B12 avoiding the use of animal products is anything but a long, resource-expensive propostion. Yet ending livestock would certainly require major investment in B12 supplement production for the health of Americans.

This as opposed to livestock ruminants, such as cattle and sheep and goats, whose digestive systems are designed to convert crude grains that humans cannot digest nor derive much food value from, into a vast array of products, nutritional, chemical, medicinal, and even textile -- wool and leather come to mind. From grain grown in areas where the propspect of growing crops for human consumption would be a tremendous usurping of land and water resources, we get livestock.

The anti-meat "cruelty-free" fools have told the lie often and loudly enough, that many sadly believe that livestock uses horrific gallons of water. I knew a livestock rancher who actually did the math, and sat chuckling at the absurdity of it. Meanwhile, non-livestocking folks forget entirely that non-leather products are like as not, grown. Those cotton Hawaiian shirts, those eco-friendly non-leather all-hemp boots, those canvas bags instead of "cruel" leather, are derived from crops that have to be grown and harvested and take water away from existing places. Think of all the cute little critters that are displaced when 500 acres of land, anywhere, is cleared for cultivation-heavy cropland.

We use our common sense, and DUH!!!! Livestock is far and away the most sensible use of natural resources. Those who think it "cruel" are clinging to a little-girl mindset, but it is a dangerous mindset, in fact, a DEADLY mindset.

The push against meat and animal products threatens the very physical health of Americans. God help the 13-year-old girls who have decided to go Vegan and don't supplment like pros. They are virtually guaranteed osteoporosis by their mid 30s.

The anti-meat ethic is foolish but more crucial, dangerous.

34 posted on 09/05/2009 5:39:45 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: ErnBatavia

Oh! That’s about the only thing I miss now that I’m not living in California. No burgers here compare to In N Out’s.

But does this mean that O can’t live it up at his WH parties where he serves Wagyu Kobe beef???? It was reported that it costs $100 a lb but I looked it up on Japan’s Wagyu site and it was $187.00 a lb several months ago.


35 posted on 09/05/2009 5:40:52 PM PDT by okimhere
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To: elcid1970

As a matter of fact we do gills on the grill here too...(pardon my spelling...).

A friend of mine brought me a 9 pound steelhead (that’s a BIG rainbow trout to the uninitiated...) last year and I just put some onion and lemon slices in the body cavity with a little salt and pepper, and grilled it to perfection for dinner that night. Whole fish (yes, head and all...) are particularly easy to grill and the flavor is amaxing.

I cook on cast iron heated with hardwood charcoal. I use briquets to get things started, and add mesquite charcoal for some extra flavor. I have a source where I can get a 50 lb bag of mesquite for about $13, and it’s worth it!

I’ve got my requests out to a few of my hunter friends to let them know I’ll be glad to take any venison they don’t want this year. I’ve got a good meat grinder and a great recipe for pemmican, and I sure would like to put up 20-30 pounds of raw venison as pemmican jerky this year. My wife vacume bags it once it’s dry and cool, and it will keep almost forever like that.

These vegans just don’t know what they are missing....


36 posted on 09/05/2009 6:18:55 PM PDT by Bean Counter (No, I am Jim Thompson!!)
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To: Bean Counter

Steelhead......

You’re not posting from Wisconsin, by any chance?

Lived in Green Bay four years, home of the most awesome seafood I ever knew, even after a later four years on the Chesapeake.


37 posted on 09/05/2009 6:41:21 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Gator113
We already have Lingcod out for dinner

I may have strange tastes, but I would take fish over beef 75% of the time. Did you ever see the Simpsons episode where there was a court battle over the "all-you-can-eat" fish restaurant? Well, they patterned Homer's behavior after me.

38 posted on 09/05/2009 7:29:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Health Care Reform has met the DEATH Panel.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I didn’t see the Simpsons episode, but seafood is my favorite... I do like my steak though. ;>)

I just finished dinner... the Lingcod was great. ;>)


39 posted on 09/05/2009 7:38:04 PM PDT by Gator113 (YES WE CAN.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cMxJBenigY&feature=related)
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To: Finny

I don’t care if it is a federal matter involving Czars in Washington. Cattle is a multi-billion dollar business in Texas and limiting it using endangered species act just would never happen. Maybe in California, it would be easier, but not in my state.


40 posted on 09/05/2009 7:42:32 PM PDT by BradtotheBone
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