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It's Official: No Public Option from Obama (Drudge Headline)
Politico.com ^ | 9/1/2009

Posted on 09/01/2009 8:20:22 PM PDT by GVnana

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To: GVnana

Change the bottle; keep the wine. Democrats lie.


141 posted on 09/01/2009 11:26:53 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: elizabethgrace

“Can we say “INCREMENTALISM?”

Can we say “Look for devils in the details?”

Can we say “Desperation calls for a win by any definition?”

CAN WE SAY CO-OPs?

(unless they’ve already re-named such a plan....and so, yes, the devil IS in the details!)


142 posted on 09/01/2009 11:32:07 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: itssme

Mine are a lost cause, all Dems. Like I said, schumer, gillibrand, tonko. I will be actively supporting whoever runs against them.


143 posted on 09/01/2009 11:33:25 PM PDT by Papaco4011 (You just lost the game!!!!!)
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To: itssme

We need to appeal to everyone, Republicans, Democrats, Independents...it’s all of us against obama’s communist/socialist admin....whose side are they on?”

I would add that, in addition to those you’ve listed (legislators), those of us ‘peons’ that are INFORMED need to take the TRUTH to the generally UNINFORMED public. If Glenn Beck is “preaching to the choir”, then, IMO, it’s our responsibility (and the least we can do) to spread the word.


144 posted on 09/01/2009 11:52:16 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Jeff Head
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Not sure if you saw this yet, your “Gathering Storm” pic is on Lucianne.com’s homepage tonight!

145 posted on 09/01/2009 11:53:14 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Kennedy dared us to call his bluff, when we didn't, he made all of us complicit in what he had done.)
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To: GVnana

Now, it will not pass.


146 posted on 09/02/2009 12:26:03 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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Even without the option, there is still no votes for it pass. He has abandoned the hardcore lefties.


147 posted on 09/02/2009 12:27:38 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: rawhide

Yes, its called a ‘’co-op ‘’ or ‘’COMMUNIST OPTION’’. That will eventually morph into a ‘’Single Payer’’ that will soon become ‘’ Univeral ‘’ health care for all including illegal aliens,,,,,,you see its all basically the same thing to me ‘’A CRAP BILL’’! KILL THE BILL!!!


148 posted on 09/02/2009 12:55:28 AM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: cookcounty
There is nothing "organic" (for lack of a better term) about HR3200. It does not evolve from the legislative process. It was not framed from any public experience. It's a device conjured by some guys at Harvard (sorry I've lost the link.)

These lying jerks in congress pull it off a shelf and say "lookie here! A healthcare bill! America wants this!"

You know and I know HR3200 eliminates HSAs exactly on the page you referenced.

149 posted on 09/02/2009 1:00:59 AM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: W-Girl
As Zero's numbers continue to slide downward, look who's quietly celebrating in the corner! LOL!
150 posted on 09/02/2009 1:44:40 AM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: GVnana
And although House leaders have said their members will demand the inclusion of a public insurance option, Obama has no plans to insist on it himself, the officials said.

What a weasel statement that means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

151 posted on 09/02/2009 1:53:27 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Sam opens bar late: "If the Post Office ran its business like yours...never mind." - Cliff Clavin)
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To: BP2

Wow, no wonder all of his Illinois State Senate records are “lost”, it would prove how much of a radical he really was!


152 posted on 09/02/2009 2:38:01 AM PDT by RatsDawg (At least we don't have to worry about riding in Ted Kennedy's car anymore...)
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To: GVnana
Incremental step... Now, he and Congress/Senate need to drop this power grab altogether. Most Americans are happy with their health care.

If the Dem maggots need something to do then they can work on REAL tort reform.

153 posted on 09/02/2009 3:11:18 AM PDT by xtinct (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: rawhide
There will something that will eventually become the public option. This was talked about last week. I forget the name of it.

Gov regulated Co-ops.

154 posted on 09/02/2009 3:15:01 AM PDT by sonofagun
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To: GVnana

ØBama “I want you to argue with them and get in their face”

Weather Underground Bill Ayers, “over throwing the Capitalist System, and put in something more humane”

Weather Underground Mark Rudd, “move off-campus and organize among the off-campus youth”

Weather Underground Mark Rudd, “Gut Check - challenge each other to be more violent”

Bernadine Dohrn, “holding my nose and going through with surrender”

Bernadine Dohrn “I remain committed to the struggle ahead”

Bernadine Dohrn “I am not committed to non-violence in any way”


155 posted on 09/02/2009 3:22:51 AM PDT by Son House (President Øbama Turns His Back On The Oppressed During Their Darkest Hours)
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To: rawhide

Co-ops, I believe.

What we need is a competitive health insurance market, such as the ability to buy insurance over state lines. We need real tort reform, meaning real limits on punitive damages. Third, ERs need to start charging all comers without private insurance $100 for non-emergency visits, such as when little Juan has the sniffles or Jose stubbed his toe. If the illegals and the Medi-caid patients had to pay $100 for an ER visit for non-life threatening issues, those ERs would thin out to about half the demand overnight. Also, insurance companies need to lighten up on the pre-existing conditions denials of care. Finally, Medi-caid and Medi-care fraud should become a priority investigated by REAL investigators who know what they’re doing. The savings could be used by Medi-caid and Medi-care to pay a larger fee for services rather than the pittance the providers get now, which creates a loss passed on to paying customers. A combination of those few changes would probably cut costs by a minimum of a third in short order. With lower costs, more people would buy insurance.


156 posted on 09/02/2009 3:25:15 AM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: bustinchops
Third, ERs need to start charging all comers without private insurance $100 for non-emergency visits, such as when little Juan has the sniffles or Jose stubbed his toe.

Great idea. Simple, direct, effective.

157 posted on 09/02/2009 3:31:43 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: BP2
Obama: "The message from the Town Halls meetings came back loud and clear -- the Republicans in Congress are being unreasonable. To be bipartisan and meet them half way, here are the new elements of my plan ..."

Exactly. And if the Republicans still aren't bi-partisan after all we've done to accommodate them then we're clearly justified in passing this bill for the American people without their interference.

158 posted on 09/02/2009 3:34:27 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: GVnana
"I’m not going to put a date on any of this,” Axelrod said. “But I think it’s fairly obvious that we’re not in the second inning. We’re not in the fourth inning. We’re in the eighth or ninth inning here, and so there’s not a lot of time to waste.”

More like "rained out", if you ask me.

159 posted on 09/02/2009 4:23:07 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: GVnana

......synthesize and harmonize........

Translation
Make things up and coat them with sugar to make them palatable.


160 posted on 09/02/2009 4:25:49 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khital)
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