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To: GreenLanternCorps
The Kenyan Constitution can not strip away British citizenship from someone, any more than British law can strip US citizenship from someone or the US Constitution involuntarily strip British citizenship from someone. All the Kenya Independence Act 1963 did was to give Barry an additional citizenship (Kenyan). By your logic, the US (for example) could write a Constitutional amendement (or law) that states anyone residing within the territory of the US would have their foreign citizenship (if having any) involuntarily stripped from them. One country's Constitution can not do that to another's citizens involuntarily.

Fact remains, as far as the "Natural Born Citizenship" requirement goes...he was born with British citizenship. Therefore, the question for the courts, for the legislators and the American people is..."HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?"

276 posted on 08/29/2009 12:58:15 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Didn’t you just answer your own question? Great Britain can’t govern who a US NBC is anymore than it can strip someone of US citizenship. It’s irrelevant.


279 posted on 08/29/2009 1:02:23 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: rxsid
You are correct, the laws of one country cannot take a person's citizenship of another country away from them.

However, the UK can and did take Obama’s UK citizenship from him, per Section 2, Paragraph 2 of the Kenya Independence Act as I quoted to you. That was automatic, per the Act because Obama became a Kenyan citizen on Kenya's Independence Day.

I should note that by 1963 the UK had plenty of experience in granting independence to colonies and knew what to do in order to adjust the citizenship of all parties concerned. If Obama were to apply for a UK passport tomorrow, he would be denied it.

Kenya took his Kenyan citizenship from him in 1982 when he failed to renounce his US citizenship.

If Obama is a British citizen it is because he was never a Kenyan citizen and I don't think his Mau Mau sympathizer father would have stood for that.

After 1982 the only officially documented citizenship Obama has left is his US citizenship. (I'm not touching the Indonesia question, because I think Lolo Sotereo was lying and bribing people to get his stepson into a good school.)

In my opinion, if Obama was born on US soil then he is a natural born citizen for purposes or being President of the United States, because he had his US citizenship at birth, regardless of any other citizenships he may have been born with or held. Those citizenships have no standing under US law. They have no standing for any other purpose under US law I doubt they would for the Presidency.

In my opinion, if he was born outside the US he is probably still a natural born citizen because the law in force at the time would probably not withstand constitutional scrutiny and could probably be held to deny Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama Jr, due process of law by imposing an arbitrary deadline. It would have to be fought out in court, and would be embarrassing to Obama, but he would probably win and be declared a US citizen from birth.

305 posted on 08/29/2009 2:22:22 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: rxsid

It is not certain that he was born with British Citizenship. In fact, it is more likely that he wasn’t a British Citizen at birth.

There is one particular section of the law that Rolling Stone pointed out. I don’t believe it is applicable because it discusses legitimizing an illegitimate birth through subsequent marriage - and that is not the case here with the facts as we know them. Even if it did apply, you would have to prove that Sr was domiciled in Hawaii..and he wasn’t. He was here as a Student.


497 posted on 08/30/2009 4:01:30 PM PDT by RummyChick
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