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To: Fledermaus
Fred was only there to take votes away from Romney for McCain. But something happened...Huckabee started taking votes from both and even Fred.

So Fred did his job and at least took enough conservative votes to water down Mitt and Mike and let Juan McLame win the nomination and start losing the race.

I am constantly amazed at how many people on FR don't understand the concept that, in things like primary elections, you have a zero-sum game. When one guy gets a vote, the others guys lose that vote. Fred (ostensibly) wanted to win, and since he was conservative, would take away votes from other conservatives, as well as those like Romney who were pretending to be conservative. This isn't being a spoiler for McCain, it's called "running in a crowded primary field." Get over it.

And BTW, which is it? Was Fred in the race to steal votes from Huckabee, or was he in to steal votes from Romney, since you seem to be trying to advance both conspiracy theories, laughably, at the same time.

By your logic, how do we know that Romney and Huckabee weren't in the race to steal votes from Fred, hunh? How do we know Romney wasn't a spoiler who was in the race to keep Fred from getting anywhere and to give the nomination to McCain?

106 posted on 08/27/2009 3:19:27 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I’m convinced he was in it for the money


109 posted on 08/27/2009 3:21:42 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khitab)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Since your reading skills are subpar I’ll explain again.
Romney (after Guliani sank after he, at first, was touted as the lock to win the nomination in the press) was who McCain wanted to thwart. He was considered the threat to his chances and that was starting to happen.

They didn’t care about Huckabee - another southerner from Arkansas. Fred never wanted to win. Anyone that knows his history (and I like the man and voted for him every time) knows he and McCain are great buddies.

This is why Fred announced and then didn’t really campaign. He was waiting for super Tuesday. But with Huckabee on the rise Fred jumped in and campaigned in Florida. It wasn’t well planned and this is where the “he seems lazy” line came from.

And primaries are only zero-sum games if every eligible voter goes to the polls which never happens. So one person can get more votes by getting out those that might not have gone to the polls.

And since you also don’t seem to understand this forum, it’s for opinions. Those are mine. I personally don’t give a crap how it came out since I knew McCain would probably lose and I did’t like him anyway. I’m just looking at what happened and offered some analysis as I see it.

Now you can unwad your panties.


151 posted on 08/28/2009 2:31:41 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Welcome to the USSA: United Socialist States of America: Bow to The Obama!)
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