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Does anyone else think our country has spun out of control the past 9 months?
1 posted on 08/26/2009 10:14:19 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet
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its all been about “clunkers” (low mpg cars) and “dunkers” (waterboard salon treatments)


2 posted on 08/26/2009 10:15:58 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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The last six months.....yes. Learn to protect yourself, you may need that knowledge.


3 posted on 08/26/2009 10:16:00 AM PDT by RC2
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The walling reportedly took place on special hollow walls that made a great slamming sound but were about as harmless as cardboard cartons.


4 posted on 08/26/2009 10:16:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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Still waiting to see Amnesty International’s condemnation of Al Qaida for kidnapping civilians, torturing them, and then videotaping their murders for Islamic snuff videos.


5 posted on 08/26/2009 10:17:36 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ted Kennedy, you are NO J.F.K. Wrong on abortion. Wrong on taxes.)
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The enemy is running the asylum.


6 posted on 08/26/2009 10:17:39 AM PDT by freespirited (The only thing growing faster than the deficit is Chris Matthews' man crush on Obama -- Tim Pawlenty)
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The Left says that Saddam Hussein did a better job of keeping terrorism down in Iraq.

We were using methods that were far less severe and not dangerous to the captives.

Saddam WOULD rape and murder the wives of the prisoners. He WOULD cut off their hands.

The CIA ran a Halloween haunted house, not a torture chamber.

Put another catepillar on a prisoner and tell him it has a poisonous bite.


8 posted on 08/26/2009 10:19:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ted Kennedy, you are NO J.F.K. Wrong on abortion. Wrong on taxes.)
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I do not personally know of one person who thinks this country is NOT spinning out of control.

I am buying all of the ammo I can.

In any SHTF scenario, it will come in handy, but will also be the new de facto currency.


9 posted on 08/26/2009 10:20:21 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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Same thing that every SERE student goes through. I survived it OK.


12 posted on 08/26/2009 10:22:02 AM PDT by rangerX (Sua Sponte)
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Yes we have.

Spoke with a dad with 3 sons in various branches. A conservative that can't believe how fast it is devolving and worries about his sons.

What gets me is this...

These interrogators ans Spec-Ops guys are doing the dirty work that Holder finds repulsive that gave him the freedom to be the leftist thug he has become.

What Gauls me, their is probably a spec-op snipper wallowing in his own piss for 3 days as we speak to play wack-a-mole with a bad guy they they have been waiting to get into his sites.

Holder doesn't deserve to polish that soldiers boots....

16 posted on 08/26/2009 10:24:20 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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Waaaayyyyy out of control!

Someone is going to die because of Obama, et al, and their stupid political decisions. You can bet there is no one left in the CIA who is going to put their neck out if this is what happens to them for their effort!

We should be thanking the CIA instead of trying to prosecute them! I don't give a crap what they do to TERRORISTS! They don't care what they do to us!

I guarantee you that the geniuses in Obama’s circle wouldn't have a problem with his perceived political enemies being treated the way these TERRORISTS were treated! We just can't do the same thing to freaking terrorists who want to KILL US!!!

19 posted on 08/26/2009 10:26:10 AM PDT by kcvl
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"Sleep deprivation, "insult slaps," water dousing and "walling," or slamming a detainee's head against a wall, were techniques used by CIA interrogators to break high-value detainees, according to an agency memo."

But, not the first one had his head lopped off, did they? Holder and the Zero administration are putting our country perilously close to being attacked again. Cheney is quite correct to describe our country as being less safe under the Zero administration.

21 posted on 08/26/2009 10:27:23 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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“All enemies, foreign and domestic”. We’ve arrived.


25 posted on 08/26/2009 10:32:03 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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cia is supposed to break terrorist prisoners...its their job


30 posted on 08/26/2009 10:37:27 AM PDT by dalebert
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CIA has done nothing wrong and in the end most people will understand that.

But the short term payoff of all this is that, in order to defend itself, CIA has to reveal its interrogation methods and philosophy, and it has to reveal the exact limits it places on itself.

This is read by Al Qaeda, Iranian intel, Chinese intel, everyone. And terrorists are coached by their leaders exactly how to behave if they are captured and exactly what to expect from the interrogator.

One of the main things an interrogator has going for him is the fact that prisoner is fearful and doesn’t know what is happening to him. He is in psychological free-fall and his interrogator is his life-line.

Exposing the details of the interrogator’s art does tremendous damage. This is by design. These people are a menace.


32 posted on 08/26/2009 10:39:36 AM PDT by marron
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Not.

Enough.

Bad.

Stuff.

Can.

Happen.

To.

These.

Motherhugging.

People.


43 posted on 08/26/2009 11:03:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (It's Claire Wolfe Time.)
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44 posted on 08/26/2009 11:22:16 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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"Sleep deprivation, "insult slaps," water dousing and "walling," or slamming a detainee's head against a wall, were techniques used by CIA interrogators to break high-value detainees, according to an agency memo."

Show the memo then. Is there an actual CIA-approved term called, "walling"? Or is that just a term prefaced by, "Some agents call the technique "walling" when they slam a detainees head against a wall?" Or "One agent referred to it as "walling." Or even worse, "One detainee called it "walling."

Since the memo's contents have been leaked we now have a right to actually see the memos with the appropriate redactions in place.

46 posted on 08/26/2009 12:01:36 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Sam opens bar late: "If the Post Office ran its business like yours...never mind." - Cliff Clavin)
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>Does anyone else think our country has spun out of control the past 9 months?<

Up is down, down is up, left is right and right is wrong.

It’s all perfectly logical to the liberal mind who invites chains to be put on all of us.

We are SCREWED.


47 posted on 08/26/2009 1:24:04 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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This is insane the democrats hate America.


48 posted on 08/26/2009 1:55:41 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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52 posted on 08/26/2009 3:35:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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