Posted on 08/25/2009 4:45:39 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG
Troops challenging the legitimacy of President Barack Obama as commander-in-chief -- including at least one who is fighting deployment -- should take heed: Gunnery Sgt. Hartman wants to know your "major malfunction."
R. Lee Ermey, the Marine-turned-actor whose role as drill instructor Gunny Hartman in the late Stanley Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket" has all but placed the Vietnam veteran in the pantheon of Marine heroes alongside "Chesty" Puller, Smedley Butler and Dan Daly, isn't buying anyone's political objector status.
"I haven't heard about those guys," Ermey told Military.com during an Aug. 21 interview. "If I do run across them though, trust me, I'll square them away."
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Mr. Hartman was a fictional character in Stanly Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket. Wikipedia on R. Lee Ermey
R. Lee Ermey was a Marine and a Drill Instructor.
You are correct about the promotion to Gunnery Sergeant being honorary. That's something I found out about earlier on this thread. He was promoted by the same gereral that made Gomer Pyle an honorary Lance Corporal.
Major Cook is no coward. He is completely willing to deploy. He just questions the validity of the person occupying the office of POTUS. A very brave thing to do publically for a commissioned officer.
He acted not out of evasion of duty but concern for country.
Absolutely right.
“If all those pieces of evidence derive from a faulty basis they are worthless”
Correct.
But they do not.
BHO could sacrifice babies in the Oval Office and the media would spin it as a strong commitment to reproductive rights.
I cannot speak to the issue with John Brennan other than that I do not think there is any level of malfeasance or corruption by the BHO administration that the media will spotlight.
But that doesn’t change the fact that BHO was born in Hawaii.
Maybe you can prove me wrong, but I don't think any presidents other than Bush released their college transcripts, except perhaps to their biographers after they left office.
So, that’s the only line of the post you have a problem with? ROTFLOL
Consider the following:
1) "..I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
2) “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
3) Microfilm of birth announcements on file from 1961.
4) The COLB presented to certain sources, whether you accept it as genuine or not, it is evidence.
5) There is no record, that I am aware of, that Obama ever claimed African birth over the course of his life. Even in his early years when he was trying to establish a black identity. And I don't mean specific school records. I mean when he was an adult in Chicago trying to to develop a black identity by joining a radical church and trying to make a name for himself.
6) The idea that an 18 year old girl of limited means would undertake a long and expensive trip to make her way to Africa to give birth and then return to the United States two weeks after the birth stretches the limits of plausibility.
7) There is no record, that I am are of, where the mother claims she made this trip.
There's more, I am sure. But that's a fair sample.
On the Kenyan born side you have:
A) African politicians making statements of "Oh, yeah. He's one of us.". But no proof presented.
B) A newspaper headline from an American based African newspaper. But no proof presented.
C) Deliberately manipulated and out of context statements made by an African grandmother.
D) One obviously falsified Kenyan BC created as a prank.
E) Numerous hucksters trying to make money off the issue (the e-bay fiasco).
F) Claims that getting a Hawaiian COLB is relatively simple, but no evidence that I have found of anyone ever having done this. Just oft repeated claims, but no proof at all, that BHO's sister has done just this.
G) Allusions of widespread conspiracies where it is commonly known that BHO was born in Kenya but it's all been covered up.
H) An inability to get anywhere at all with this in the court system.
Again, there are certainly more but that is a reasonable sample.
So, based on what is currently known and verifiable, BHO was born in Hawaii.
If someone wants to believe otherwise, that's fine. That's their right and privilege.
So...
If the above is unacceptable to you, what would you consider proof? And do you apply those same standards of proof to demonstrating a foreign birth?
None of that is proof. No fact has been established with any of that.
Guess you missed the threads on Gore flunking out of Divinity School and comparing Dubyas IQ to Kerry’s during the elections.
what is the foundation base point for all that mountain of evidence?
If that’s where you stand, then there’s really not much that can be done.
Ref. post 228 for an overview.
And it’s not a mountain of evidence.
It’s a question of some vs. none.
That is utterly ridiculous. One phone call and $12 will produce a long form COLB and everything will be settled.
Tell me how this is different and less important than when people demanded Kerry release his military records.
If that is your proof, I rest my case. It could all be cleared up very easily with some real proof. The original long form. What’s the problem with seeing it?
He is The One and is above proof to any mortal inquiries regarding his origins. He IS, WAS, and shall forever BE.
How dare you question the mighty O?
/sarc
Note that I said "before Bush" in my post. Gore and Kerry never became POTUS.
That's not gonna work for ya. People have been asking for Obeyme's records since before the election. McCain had to produce both doctor reports and a BC during the election. We had records from other candidates. Also there was a big brouhaha when Clinton sealed his medical records. That was before Bush. We also had info on Clinton being a Rhodes scholar etc. This kind of thing has always been available. The exceptions to releasing complete documents when asked are Clintons medical records, Kerry's military records and ANY of Obama's records. Apparently they all have something to hide.
The owner doesn’t want to give it to you.
Until such a time that BHO decides to make it public (read: when he thinks it will benefit him) you just have to make do with what is available.
Kerry’s military records reflected what he had done and actual choices he had made. This is more important, IMHO. And he never did fully release them, IIRC.
The BC issue is a manufactured crisis that allows people to feel all righteously indignant.
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