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And Giuliani, customarily brusque, told people, including professor Gates, across the land: "Here's the lesson ... shut up when a cop is asking you questions!" (Fox News, July 31).

Surprisingly sound advice coming from Rudy.

1 posted on 08/24/2009 9:51:55 AM PDT by IbJensen
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blacks want us teach all created equal while they continue to teach hate. its been that way all the time. racism is a business for profit.


31 posted on 08/24/2009 10:18:02 AM PDT by dalebert
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And on CNN, Colin Powell chimed in with his advice to black children: "When you're faced with an officer who is trying to do his job and get to the bottom of something, this is not the time to get in an argument with him. I was taught that as a child."

Same here, and I'm white. Cops don't like smartasses.
32 posted on 08/24/2009 10:18:40 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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Not one of Hentoff's better columns.

Apparently, Cambridge, Mass., police sergeant James Crowley missed that issue of The New Yorker...This postgraduate education for police officers...

Uh, Nat, Crowley TEACHES such 'postgraduate' education on avoiding racial profiling. Sometimes, it is just the fault of the other person, not the cop.

33 posted on 08/24/2009 10:18:49 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Isn’t Nat Hentoff a PBS liberal?

What he says doesn’t cut any ice with me.


34 posted on 08/24/2009 10:19:51 AM PDT by Dudoight
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Clearly, Mr. Giuliani remains unteachable on this subject. As I reported during his dramatic mayoral career, none of his predecessors since 1958 (when I began covering City Hall) had so alienated black New Yorkers by urging his police to engage in large-scale stop-and-frisks of predominately black residents without charging them with a crime.

Hentoff has a point here - it is a violation of basic rights to frisk someone on the street without any probable cause. But, then again, Rudy has always been an authoritarian control freak when it comes to the Bill of Rights.

35 posted on 08/24/2009 10:20:18 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Clearly, Mr. Giuliani remains unteachable on this subject. As I reported during his dramatic mayoral career...
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Blah, blah, blah...who was it that cleaned up NYC, you maroon! Reality doesn’t matters to these loons.


38 posted on 08/24/2009 10:22:43 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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And on CNN, Colin Powell chimed in with his advice to black children: "When you're faced with an officer who is trying to do his job and get to the bottom of something, this is not the time to get in an argument with him. I was taught that as a child."

I'm not sure why Mr. Henthoff is calling this "black parents'" advice ... it sounds like good, common sense to me. Is he perhaps unable to get past the fact that Colin Powell is a black guy?

39 posted on 08/24/2009 10:22:44 AM PDT by r9etb
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As long as there is a Nat Hentoff, there will always be racism.


51 posted on 08/24/2009 10:39:19 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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I HOPE black parents are telling their children the truth, that is:

- Martin Luther King, Jr., was a Republican.
- Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.
- The NAACP was founded by a white man.
- It was the Republicans, not democrats, spearheading the Civil Rights movement, and supplying the votes for its success.


52 posted on 08/24/2009 10:44:29 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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FTA: “In Nassau, along with 30 hours of training on cultural diversity in the police academy...”

Why isn’t there an equal or larger amount of training in the schools and neighborhoods about respecting the authority of the cops and not creating a bad situation by being confrontational?

One of the biggest reasons that the blacks vs cops meme continues is Hollywood’s portrayals in movies and television shows. Perhaps they need to accept their fair share of the blame.


53 posted on 08/24/2009 10:45:58 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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Hmmmm...


54 posted on 08/24/2009 10:46:14 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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I hope, but am skeptical, that a lasting result of Gates' manacling will be the gradual decline in the number of these war stories.

It might, Nat, but only if you're willing to accept a lower level of policing in predominantly black neighborhoods. More violence, more crime, more young black men murdered by other young black men. Is that where we want to go?

55 posted on 08/24/2009 10:47:01 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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—As for blacks’ encounters with police nationally, in 1995, Henry Louis Gates Jr. (before he became a household name) wrote in the Oct. 23 New Yorker magazine: “It’s a commonplace that white folks trust the police and black folks don’t.—

Wrong again, Skip. I wasn’t raised to be color-conscience, only cautious around strangers—as most children are raised. I was raised to respect law enforcement, the military, and others who take an oath to serve and protect. I was taught that law enforcement was there for us when in trouble. Option 1 was grabbing one of dad’s guns, if available and necessary.

First off, people like this get press but are NOT speaking for ALL Americans who happen to be black. I had this quote put on a plaque and it hangs in my home office:

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“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

- Booker T. Washington (1856-1915.)


56 posted on 08/24/2009 10:48:07 AM PDT by Kitten1 (12/23/1898; 12/25/1901; 3/6/36; 6/25/39; 9/11/55 -- Your sacrifice is not forgotten.)
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What do you mean “Surprisingly”? Giuliani is the most pro-police, anti-crime mayor New York ever had. Just because he’s been labeled “not conservative enough” here, doesn’t mean it’s true.


57 posted on 08/24/2009 10:55:37 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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It’s true...racism hasn’t gone away...its stronger than ever... except this time its coming from them....


61 posted on 08/24/2009 11:13:29 AM PDT by Awestruck (Now if we can only get the rest of the "republican" leaders to stand up to the liberals.)
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Colin Powell chimed in with his advice to black children: "When you're faced with an officer who is trying to do his job and get to the bottom of something, this is not the time to get in an argument with him. I was taught that as a child."

Colin Powell acted stupidly.

Henry Louis Gates Jr. (before he became a household name) wrote in the Oct. 23 New Yorker magazine: "It's a commonplace that white folks trust the police and black folks don't.

Hardly universal. I'm white & I despise cops.

65 posted on 08/24/2009 11:31:39 AM PDT by Sloth (Irony: Freepers who call Ron Paul a "nut" but swallow all the birth certificate conspiracy crap.)
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Hentoff writes for Hustler. Therefore, anything he says has no value whatsoever.


67 posted on 08/24/2009 11:40:45 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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What moron wrote this story, Reverend Wright?


72 posted on 08/24/2009 11:50:14 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Apparently, Cambridge, Mass., police sergeant James Crowley missed that issue of The New Yorker.

The author, in his snarky derision of the good Sgt, ignores (or missed) the fact that he was and is an instructor for other officers on how to deal with racially charged situations and how to avoid profiling. Of course, when the facts don't fit the agenda, why bother including them...

86 posted on 08/24/2009 12:49:08 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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And on CNN, Colin Powell chimed in with his advice to black children: “When you’re faced with an officer who is trying to do his job and get to the bottom of something, this is not the time to get in an argument with him. I was taught that as a child.”
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Plenty of white folk were taught that as a child, too.


104 posted on 08/24/2009 7:18:15 PM PDT by JavaJumpy
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