[mountn man]

Maybe Zero REALLY ISN'T worried about his numbers.

The dems have talked about the "nuclear" option, to ram this through.

They've talked about a one term presidency, just to get this through.

Maybe this goes BEYOND Obamas NPD.

Maybe, just maybe, this is a special tactic. They DON'T CARE what the people want. They will push this through come what may. And THEY WANT come what may. IF the people truely become upset enough, then mass revolts will start to take place. At which point martial law CAN be imposed, thereby delaying or eliminating the 2010 election.

Maybe government health care IS part of Zeros plan. BUT maybe its just a PART. He's called a socialist, a marxist, the Obamunist. Maybe he's pushing for his own Red October.

[PIF]

Curiously, in all the discussions on cable, I’ve never heard exactly what this ‘nuclear option’ actually is...

Could this option be taken literally? A nuke exploding in some city certainly would be a ‘crisis’ which would rally most behind Hussein and all his bills would pass.

[sirchtruth]

These people don't understand how freedom really works. They can not force this permenately. The 2nd admentment insures the gov't can not take over and usurp law. That's why it's so important. The founders understood that gov't could never get powerful enough to rule by fiat.

These marixt don't get this and will most likely be voted out in 2010, so even if they did pass this POS HC legislation conservatives will obliterate it in 2011 or sooner!

Remember, the American people still are in power by constitutional right, not the representatives. As bad as the DBM are even they understand this, they are just too foolish too recognize what Obama really is because they were selfimposedly star-struck like childish morons!

The MSM are slowly starting to grasp the foolish mistake they made.

[fwdude]

At least nationalized health care is reversible through new legislation, although slowly, and the longer it stays in place, the more ensconced it will become in the mind of the American public, especially those who consider themselves entitled (Democrats.)

There are many more policies which Ø is working to enact that will be disastrous and nearly irreversible if he succeeds - nationwide same-sex "marriage"; instant citizenship for the millions of illegal aliens that have overrun this country; the demilitarization of the U.S. to the glee of our most ardent enemies, etc.

[Scanian]

I don’t think the Dhimmis believe armed revolts are a likely consequence. They are ordinary politicians who think they can ram through unpopular legislation in the fall of ‘09 and by the fall of ‘10 citizen anger will fade and normal voting patterns will prevail in the mid-term election. They’ll have a year to propagandize and demagogue the issue and since voters have shown themselves to have short memories in the past, the Dhimmis think we’ll calm down enough in the coming months to cause them only small losses in Congress.

If they do the cramdown, it’s up to us to keep the fires of outrage well-stoked.