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Obama Slams 'Outrageous Myths' About Health Care
CNN ^ | 8/22/09

Posted on 08/22/2009 9:52:17 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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I had a discussion with someone who said I had my facts wrong when I stated that you would indeed have to give up your choice of plan and covering doctor with this legislation. So I began reading this part of the bill, and I just want to make sure I have my analysis correct before I see him again...can anyone look at this with a critical eye and let me know if I have my debunking of Obama's debunking correct before I go back for round two?

(Underlined text is the relevant part of the bill, bolded italicized and underlined text are my interpretation...sorry for the difficulty reading, I don't know how to change the color of the text to make distinguish them better)

STANDARDS FOR QUALIFIED HEALTH BENEFITS PLANS

SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE. 

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV- ERAGEDEFINED.—Subject to the succeeding provisions of this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov- erage under this division, the term ‘‘grandfathered health insurance coverage’’ means individual health insurance coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the first day of Y1 (Y1 IS THE DAY THE BILL BECOMES LAW)  if the following conditions are met: 

(1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.— 

(A) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first ef- fective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1.  (THIS MEANS YOU HAVE TO BE ENROLLED IN YOUR PRIVATE PLAN BEFORE THE LEGISLATION BECOMES LAW)

(2) LIMITATION ON CHANGES IN TERMS OR CONDITIONS. Subject to paragraph (3) and except as required by law, the issuer does not change any of its terms or conditions, including benefits and cost-sharing, from those in effect as of the day be- fore the first day of Y1.   (THIS MEANS THE PRIVATE INSURER CANNOT CHANGE BENEFITS OR PREMIUMS IT OFFERS BEGINNING ON THE DAY THE LEGISLATION BECOMES LAW.)

RESTRICTIONS ON PREMIUM INCREASES The issuer cannot vary the percentage increase in the premium for a risk group of enrollees in specific grandfathered health insurance coverage without changing the premium for all enrollees in the same risk group at the same rate, as specified by the Commissioner.   (THIS IS HOW THEY DEAL WITH VARIATION OF PREMIUMS-IT IS CLASSIC DOUBLESPEAK)

(b) GRACE PERIODFOR CURRENT EMPLOYMENT- DHEALTHPLANS.— 

(1) GRACEPERIOD.— 

(A) IN GENERAL.—The Commissioner shall establish a grace period whereby, for plan years beginning after the end of the 5-year pe- riod beginning with Y1, an employment-based health plan in operation as of the day before the first day of Y1 must meet the same require- ments as apply to a qualified health benefits plan under section 101, including the essential benefit package requirement under section 121.  (FIVE YEARS  FROM Y1  WHICH IS DEFINED AS THE DATE THE LEGISLATION BECOMES LAW, ALL PLANS WILL HAVE TO OFFER EXACTLY THE SAME BENEFITS AS ALL OTHER PARTICPANTS IN THE "EXCHANGE" TO BE ALLOWED TO  EXIST AT ALL.  FURTHERMORE, PARTICIPANTS IN THE  "EXCHANGE" WILL HAVE TO OFFER THE SAME BENEFITS AS THE TOTALITY OF THE "PUBLIC OPTION" TO BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE "EXCHANGE".  THEY WILL BE FREE TO OFFER MORE BENEFITS,  IF THEY WISH, BUT NONE OF  THEM WILL, SINCE THEY ARE GOING TO BE "COMPETING"  AGAINST A PUBLIC OPTION THAT IS GOING TO OFFER THE SAME THING AT A FAR CHEAPER RATE.)

41 posted on 08/22/2009 12:19:48 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Where can we get those shirts?


42 posted on 08/22/2009 1:37:39 PM PDT by FreedomFighter1013 (Of course he's not a Communist, that's ludicrous: any Obama apologist, 2008)
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To: cliogunsmith
What part of “The people don’t want it” can you not understand????

They understand....

.....They are going to do it anyway.

This, and many other radical left things that have been in the "when we get absolute power" bin are going to be shoved down our throats before they lose power.

Add the socialist AGW measures and we will all be out of work in soup lines. It will take years to clean it up, if we ever get there.....

43 posted on 08/22/2009 2:12:22 PM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: nickcarraway

The RATS have pretty well told us they don’t give 2 hoots in hell what we think of their ‘’health plan’’, they’re going to shove it to us anyway. They should loose BIG in 2010.


44 posted on 08/22/2009 2:44:16 PM PDT by Waco (OK Libs, stop emiting now.)
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To: MarkeyD
His plan is to make them legal first.

That won't be neccesary, the Democrats have been refusing to include any provision for checking immigration status of health care recepiants.

45 posted on 08/22/2009 3:00:59 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: nickcarraway

CNN: “Obama Slams ‘Outrageous Myths’ About Health Care”

Translation to English: “Obama Makes Outrageous Lies About Health Care”


46 posted on 08/22/2009 6:04:14 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: nickcarraway

http://www.collinsreport.net/2009/08/10/do-you-want-to-do-something-to-directly-fight-obamacare/


47 posted on 08/23/2009 7:20:59 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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