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Calley Apologizes for My Lai
MSNBC.com ^ | 08/21/09 | staff

Posted on 08/21/2009 7:47:30 PM PDT by grandpa jones

COLUMBUS, Ga. - Speaking in a soft, sometimes labored voice, the only U.S. Army officer convicted in the 1968 slayings of Vietnamese civilians at My Lai made an extraordinary public apology while speaking to a small group near the military base where he was court-martialed

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KEYWORDS: apology; calley; courtmartial; mylai; shoesalesman; usedcarsalesman; vietnam; vietnamvets
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To: Lancey Howard

???

The Peers summary mentions the rapes.

Calley even mentioned in his testimony that he had to stop a soldier from molesting a girl.

The “Findings” section of the Peers report mentions rape and sodomy.

Do you have first hand knowledge that Calley and General Peers were lying or are you just so determined that Americans can do no wrong that anyone who says they did is a liar?


41 posted on 08/21/2009 9:46:33 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: dalereed

How I pity you.


42 posted on 08/21/2009 9:49:00 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: icwhatudo

You said, “Many were sexually abused.”
Within the context of your entire damning post “many” sounds like more than a few isolated incidents.


43 posted on 08/21/2009 9:50:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PzLdr

I was more worried about my butt during those days. However, I believe we won that one despite civilian losses and despite what Uncle Walter fed to the American public in his newscasts.


44 posted on 08/21/2009 9:50:49 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama? Not so much.)
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To: PzLdr
Tell that to the 5,000 civilians, give or take, they murdered in Hue and other places during Tet.

That would be a lazy Sunday afternoon for Pol Pot.

45 posted on 08/21/2009 9:53:37 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: All; grandpa jones; mdcrandall; Boston

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Another interesting discussion:

My Lai Massacre convict Calley apologizes

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1290285

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46 posted on 08/21/2009 9:58:52 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; devolve; MeekOneGOP; BOBTHENAILER; Lancey Howard
Interesting.

The general's line in Platoon (1988) "If I find out there has been an illegal killing there WILL be a court martial" proved to be the case.

Johnson's dismissal (The Day It Became The Longest War) of the Joint Chiefs November 1965 request to bomb Hanoi and mine Haiphong made defeat certain.

Cronkite's treacherous lie that Tet was an enemy victory qualifies him for a seat up close at Satan's campfire.

John Kerry's and Ted Kennedy's contribution to the betrayal of the South and the ensuing tens of thousands murdered there and the two million in Cambodia gives the Left no room to criticize Calley.

The president has continued to allow the Holocaust denier to murder 700 to cement his stolen election and to buy time for the nuclear weapon with which to erase the Zionist entity and destroy the Great Satan.

A great deal was made of the four killed at Kent State while there is no remembrance of the 2,000 killed in the 130 locations dubbed the "Tiananmen Massacre".

We mustn't offend our debtors, though they have run up a score circa sixty million murdered.

Surely we will hear from Bill Ayers (eliminate 25 million to cement the revolution) the conscience of the Obama regime.

Meanwhile the Marines have been persecuted by the corrupt John Murtha and the enemy assets of al-Jazeera, the ambitious and the unscrupulous who are instituting the ROEs in Afghanistan.

The world remains a place where rough men on the razor's edge provide us our broad boulevard from which to demonize their decisions.

Calley knows he alone carries his consequences and will bear a judgment passing our understanding.

Here comes a car up to the gate, the driver fumbles for the detona

47 posted on 08/21/2009 10:19:50 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: doc1019
the whole thing was an act of deceit.
48 posted on 08/21/2009 10:36:13 PM PDT by lonster
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To: PhilDragoo

...tor !!!


49 posted on 08/21/2009 10:36:45 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Split second stuff. Then it's all a moonscape. . .with body parts (here's the bomber's torso, or head, an arm).

And decision-making must continue, despite the ever-increasing sense that actions will be second-guessed and prosecuted.

Tony Lake had FBI agents bring back CIA agent Bob Baer for questioning on a charge of attempted assassination of Saddam Hussein.

Baer was on the trail of the bomber of the Beirut Embassy in 1983 which killed sixty-some.

Obama went with the release of the Lockerbie bomber.

It's not appeasement; it's treason: weak horse, strong horse--and the guy's a Muslim.

Interesting times. Gooks in the wire.

50 posted on 08/21/2009 10:45:38 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Future Snake Eater; normanpubbie
The military prosecutor in the case came up with a unique theory -- that military personnel did not have to obey an "illegal" order from their superiors. I don't know if this nonsense is still in effect in our military.

I went in the army after the massacre and it was taught repeatedly that you are bound by honor and law to disobey an illegal order.

51 posted on 08/21/2009 10:56:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: PhilDragoo

Excellent!


52 posted on 08/21/2009 11:47:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Talisker

Thank you and you are correct.


53 posted on 08/22/2009 12:11:21 AM PDT by crazydad (=============)
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To: B-Chan

I agree. Those children didn’t have a chance.


54 posted on 08/22/2009 12:12:46 AM PDT by crazydad (=============)
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To: PhilDragoo; ALOHA RONNIE

re 47 & 50, thank you.


55 posted on 08/22/2009 1:57:10 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: icwhatudo

“The actions of these murderers dishonored all the men who served their country with honor on the battlefields of Southeast Asia.”

Zackly!

Caley was sentenced to life in prison in his court martial. He and those who gave him the orders should still be in jail.

RVN 68,69,70.

Viet Nam Mai Mai!

We were winning when I left.


56 posted on 08/22/2009 2:11:10 AM PDT by Katoolie
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To: normanpubbie

“The military prosecutor in the case came up with a unique theory — that military personnel did not have to obey an “illegal” order from their superiors. I don’t know if this...is still in effect in our military.

Still taught in “ethics” classes. Still hard for most to understand when an “order” is illegal and harder still to have the courage to disobey it during battle.


57 posted on 08/22/2009 3:17:15 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: stylecouncilor

But for Colin Powells involvement in this? Hey, wait a minute. He’s a black American hero.

Like hell. He was subordinate to Americal Division G-2, who should have gotten in a helicopter and flown down the ten minutes down there. But instead he stays in his air conditioned hooch and writes a soothing report about how American troops are trained not to do things like this. Just what the General wants to hear. Then gets back to his beer, or whatever.

He should have been kicked out of the Army for his negligence.


58 posted on 08/22/2009 6:10:37 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: robomatik

i guess a lot of usaf and raf pilots...etc..
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Make that USAAF


59 posted on 08/22/2009 6:17:11 AM PDT by xrmusn (VOTE THE INCUMBENTS OUT)
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To: Talisker
Thank you for responding to my comments in a calm, reasoned manner.

Forty years ago, there was a deep division in this country about the Vietnam war. Clearly, this division still exists. Certainly there are arguments to be made on each side. I don't condone the concept of killing innocent civilians. But when people are shooting at you, they are combatants, not civilians.

"Ethics of battle" is an oxymoron. Ethics is something that is discussed quietly in a classroom and in the classroom it's OK to present the concept of an "illegal order." But battle doesn't involve discussion.

And in 1969-1970, if I had refused to carry out an order that I considered "illegal," I would have gone straight to Long Binh Jail. And the military prosecutor would have laughed at my claim that I had the right to disobey an illegal order.

Nuremberg: Only Nazis were tried, convicted, and sentenced. No allies. Sorry, the comparison isn't valid.

IMHO, Calley was thrown to the wolves because it was easier for the government to appease the anti-military and anti-American media instead of standing up to it. Back then, there was no Internet or talk radio to present a dissenting view to the public.

For the past two weeks or so, the MSM has been rhapsodizing about how wonderful Woodstock was. In my opinion, Woodstock encapsulated everything wrong in our society during the late Sixties.
60 posted on 08/22/2009 6:50:43 AM PDT by normanpubbie
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