Posted on 08/20/2009 3:38:06 PM PDT by Ted Hewlett
Conservatives in the United States are generally opposed to what they believe are Obamas health-care plans. It seems to this observer (who, admittedly has not had time to examine the matter in as much detail as he would like), that some of the opposition is definitely misdirected.
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Conservatives in the United States are generally opposed to what they believe are Obamas health-care plans. It seems to this observer (who, admittedly has not had time to examine the matter in as much detail as he would like), that some of the opposition is definitely misdirected. As a result, from a socially-conservative point of view, the real dangers are in danger of being ignored, and an opporunity has been give to besmirch legitimate opposition to health-care measures that are objectionable.
Equating Obamas administration to a Nazi regime and the like adds more heat than light to what should be a sharp but logical debate. Disseminating rumors which appear to be of dubious validity and treating those rumors as established facts does not help the debate either.
It seems to me that a nation with the wealth of resources of the United States should be able to ensure a reasonable level of health-care for all citizens. What is needed to achieve that level is a matter for debate: a debate that should take into account the negative tendencies of government beaurocracies to be wasteful and to accumulate inordinate power.
Whatever health-care plan the citizens of our neighbours to the south choose should take into consideration the shortfalls of national systems already in place in other countries, including the sometimes unconscionable wait-times that some Canadians with painful conditions such as broken hips have had to endure.
One of the things that pro-life groups in the United States need to do is to make sure that abortion is not one of the procedures paid for by the nation. Another thing to insist on is that absolutely no health-care money go to counselling for or providing euthanasia.
A coalition of a very large number of groups in the U.S. is concentrating on ensuring that abortion is not promoted by any new health-care plan. The coalition has taken the name Stop the Abortion Mandate. This coalition has put out a video which we would encourage any American reader of this post to view. This video asks Americans to oppose any health-care reform proposal that includes abortion coverage.
If language is written into a health-care bill that specifically excludes paying for abortion coverage or for counselling or providing euthanasia, then surely social conservatives could support carefully-thought-out health-care reform in the United States.
Not much heat or light from this piece.
Who the Hell is Ted Hewlett and why should I care?
if you offer something free for everyone, you WILL have shortages and you WILL have rationing.
That has ceased to be relevant.
the problem that there is not concise or specific provisions in the bill. Yet there are other specific provisions in different parts which when you read and evaluate them realize they either promote a specific out come, or via financial or performance evaluation rewards.
...a nation with the wealth of resources of the United States should be able to...(fill in blank)
You can tell you have a stinking facist whenever you see a blurb like this. Excuse me ,Mr. CommieLib , but the people of the United States are not "resources" to be distributed freely at your whim. We are independent human beings and the very reason you have morality in the first place!
I would also take exception to your comment about conservatives equating the Obama administration to the Nazi regime. If people would go back and examine the history, it was Nancy Pelosi who first leveled the charge that American exercising their rights were acting like Nazis. This was brought up many other times by the left until people started examining those the tactics. In a examination, it IS fair to say that this administration has employed tactics used by the Nazis to silence opposition. There are parallels and to ignore them is to forget history.
With all due respect, I really get very tired of spineless jellyfish "conservatives" who naively believe we can all just get along and work together to make this a better America. If anything should be obvious from this administration, it is that the left will do ANYTHING to bend policy and doctrine towards their socialist dreams. Until conservatives become equally rabid as the liberals, this county will continue to slip towards socialism and then communism. It is refreshing to see conservatives getting some backbone. The problem is we don't have enough.
In case you did not read it, my piece said, “. . .a nation with the wealth of resources of the United States should be able to ensure a reasonable level of health-care for all citizens.” If you don’t agree you can say so, but my comment did not mean that the U. S. or any other nation could or should afford just anything that people desire.
Your comment is a good illustration of how conservatives defeat one another. You mistake a fellow-conservative for a “stinking fascist.” No doubt you may be a conservative, but seemingly a merely fiscal one, not a social conservative one who stands up for the moral principles our nations were built on.
The denigration of fellow-human beings implied by your language is a pretty sure way of turning off masses of yhour fellow-citizens from the conservative cause.
In case you did not read it, my piece said, “. . .a nation with the wealth of resources of the United States should be able to ensure a reasonable level of health-care for all citizens.” If you don’t agree you can say so, but my comment did not mean that the U. S. or any other nation could or should afford just anything that people desire.
Your comment is a good illustration of how conservatives defeat one another. You mistake a fellow-conservative for a “stinking fascist.” No doubt you may be a conservative, but seemingly a merely fiscal one, not a social conservative one who stands up for the moral principles our nations were built on.
The denigration of fellow-human beings implied by your language is a pretty sure way of turning off masses of yhour fellow-citizens from the conservative cause.
You admit that you haven't read the bill yet you defend it.
Why? You didn't read the bill but you appear to think you're qualified to comment on it. Why should we consider you opinion?
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