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Is Benedict in Favor of World Government?
First Things ^ | August 20, 2009 | Douglas A. Sylva

Posted on 08/20/2009 12:30:40 PM PDT by IbJensen

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How about the pope sticking to saving souls and let NWO goons like Obomba hustle us off to communism?
1 posted on 08/20/2009 12:30:40 PM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
How about the pope sticking to saving souls and let NWO goons like Obomba hustle us off to communism?

Thank you for saving me the trouble of saying that. I couldn't have phrased it better.

2 posted on 08/20/2009 12:33:37 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: IbJensen; NurdlyPeon
You can always tell who responds to the titles, or who quits after skimming the first and last paragraphs.

Try reading it before you go advising the Pope.

3 posted on 08/20/2009 12:37:32 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (this slope is getting slippereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...)
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To: the invisib1e hand; Dr. Eckleburg

So is the Pope above criticism? Is he infallible?


4 posted on 08/20/2009 12:40:53 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: IbJensen
mark to read later.
5 posted on 08/20/2009 12:42:41 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine PFC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island - LC -6/4/09 - 29 Palms - Camp Pendleton 6/18)
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To: the invisib1e hand
According to Benedict, a world authority worthy of this authority would need “to make a commitment to securing authentic integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth.”

I read it. I'm a practical practicing Catholic and I stand by what I stated. The above sentence is 'politic speak' exactly like what we're used to hearing in this country today.

You read it. You read it again and then it dawns on you....it makes little sense!

6 posted on 08/20/2009 12:44:04 PM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: IbJensen

So this is News? A German in favor of world government............. haven’t we heard this before?


7 posted on 08/20/2009 12:44:46 PM PDT by E.Allen
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To: IbJensen

The United Nations system will never be able to do any of that. It is not set up for anything other than what it is. A global scheme to empower dictators and enrich the third world kings.


8 posted on 08/20/2009 12:45:40 PM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: E.Allen

Lol. Precisely.


9 posted on 08/20/2009 12:46:21 PM PDT by kingpins10
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To: 1000 silverlings

He’s infallible on issues of faith and morals. Otherwise, no.

That being said, those with more than three working brain cells can clearly read in the pope’s words a call for global morality, not global government. The key is the word “subsidiarity”. The pope is saying that only a global order founded upon the natural law ( = Judeo-Christian morality ) and as a confederation of sovereign local authorities ( = subsidiarity ) can be legitimate. This implies that any international order founded upon “enlightenment”, humanistic principles, and/or one constituting a single, global sovereignity, cannot be legitimate.


10 posted on 08/20/2009 12:47:42 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: IbJensen

Bookmark


11 posted on 08/20/2009 12:50:58 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: E.Allen

Exactly, giving a set of humans control over the rest of the humans is a story that history never changes.


12 posted on 08/20/2009 12:55:13 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: B-Chan; Dr. Eckleburg

looks like he and the RC Church is sending in a resume. Humanity has had them “in charge” before, didn’t work out for a lot of us


13 posted on 08/20/2009 1:01:29 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: IbJensen

Yes+his+popeness+supports+one+world+government


14 posted on 08/20/2009 1:08:13 PM PDT by stockpirate (Will+rationed+healthcare+mean+no+treatment+for+those+with+AIDS%3F)
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To: stockpirate

I thought so!


15 posted on 08/20/2009 1:11:44 PM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: IbJensen; NurdlyPeon

Sometimes you sound less foolish if you actually read the article, rather than assume the news outlet prepared an accurate title.


16 posted on 08/20/2009 1:13:51 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: IbJensen
I’ll preface my comments by first saying “U.S. out of U.N.”

IMO, this is part of the Pope's role in "saving souls." There's a couple of goals, clearly aligned with the Church's role in the world, highlighted in the article:

“to make a commitment to securing authentic integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth.”

“Openness to life is at the center of true development. . . . The acceptance of life strengthens moral fiber and makes people capable of mutual help. . . . They can promote virtuous action within the perspective of production that is morally sound and marked by solidarity, respecting the fundamental right to life of every people and individual.”

The Pope is rightfully calling out the UN (and other existing international organizations) as failing miserably "to make themselves worthy of authority".

"The obvious implication is that the current UN has not made this commitment." Pope Benedict XVI is spot on in criticizing the UN. As the head of the Church, he also must advocate for "giving poorer nations an effective voice" and to "arrive at a political, juridical and economic order which can increase and give direction to international cooperation for the development of all peoples in solidarity." IMO, this is a call for a reformed UN, an extreme makeover, not some new world order.

17 posted on 08/20/2009 1:26:02 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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Self control is the first step of self government. Maybe we should be pinging the Pope with the real problems of pedophiles.

People who cannot cook an egg but pretend they can run the world service industry.


18 posted on 08/20/2009 1:37:31 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: the invisib1e hand; G Larry
See post #6.

...there is urgent need of a true world political authority....

There's a difference between "reading" and "understanding". I did both. You should try the latter.

19 posted on 08/20/2009 1:58:52 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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One also senses the urgent need to find innovative ways of implementing the principle of the responsibility to protect and of giving poorer nations an effective voice in shared decision-making.

Innovative Way #1: The UN seizes the Vatican and liquidates all valuable artwork, artifacts, holy relics, precious metals, etc. and gives the proceeds to poorer nations. Now, wouldn't that make the Pope feel so charitable?

20 posted on 08/20/2009 2:03:02 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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