Posted on 08/20/2009 11:29:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
Saul Alinsky wrote that it’s easy to demonize an individual, but difficult to do so with a group or institution. The grass-roots Americans who have shown up for these meetings are doing so on their own volition, not at the instructions of a leader. This is why all of the tactics used against opponents of Obama-care haven’t worked.
I love how he uses the phrase “Obama faction.”
Again Alan Keys is right on.
Good read!
Hoo-boy!
Journalists just have no respect for Federal Secret Service agents, do they?
Someone should tell them to go get a education, get a job and participate in society as a member instead of being rob-roys. Let them too learn how to scrimp, save, manage and accumulate!
Then they’ll be the first to bitch about the Govt takin their shit!
I went there I was amazed at the Ad: Advertizing how to get out of child support.
I tried to get a screen shot but don’t know how to post it.
Alan Keyes should be in the White House.
Nothing but thief mentality there.
That is very good advice. I think the left has been trying to provoke a violent reaction from the right for years but have been unsuccessful. The time is ripe now. Don't fall for it. It's OK to express your anger but keep your rage in check. If you're going to a town hall meeting to speak out publically consider your words well.
Now, since Dr. Keyes brought up the liberty aspect of things here are my thoughts on that.
Excellent.
Gun rights protestor was black and I think a plant. His responses were too canned.
Yep, he’s been reading my posts here, obviously... :)
I have been saying for a long time that this admin is intent on provoking the right to take some action that will justify the use of state authority and force to punish their ideological opponents.
But I guess that’s pretty obvious to anyone paying attention.
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That means that health care providers have no individual rights. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set their fees, their hours or change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is provided by the government to all not protected by the government as something possessed by each person. It is also a state right because it supersedes the individual rights of others when the two come into conflict.
It isn't stated in any of the bills that a patient's rights to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights are always adjudicated in the courts. The legislation simply establishes the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the patient's collective right to health care.
Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it is superior to an individual right. Fascist because it is overseen by one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the true possessor of this collective right and the administrator and enforcer of it as well.
Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of the entire Health Care Reform legislation the House and Senate have put forth. Consider the setting up of community watch dogs to monitor various health parameters of citizens in the Senate version of the bill. Look at pages 382 - 393.
TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS
Even the citizens themselves will be subject to state set regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the human right of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the state's control over its health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights?
Health Care is a Liberty Issue Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin
Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights (An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)
It’s necessary to work through our state legislatures.
They must declare sovereignty, then step it up as the
fedgov refuses to acknowledge that sovereignty.
Eventually, the fed will have to blink or send in armed
agents to enforce its will. THAT is the time for the second amendment to kick in.
That site should be called “Marching To Zimbabwe”. They want to kill off the white man after which they will all live in poverty and squalor because they don’t have brains enough to sweep the floor properly, let alone run a country.
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