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When America Will Become Europe. Thoughts of Our European Future to Come [Victor Davis Hanson]
pajamasmedia.com ^ | August 12, 2009 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/13/2009 6:55:01 AM PDT by Tolik

The more Europe professes to be egalitarian, the more cynical and conniving the people have become.

After concluding another 16 days in Europe. I am again reminded how different their form of socialism  is, and yet how closely it resembles the model that Obama seeks for America. The vast majority of citizens lives in apartments, even in smaller towns and villages. Cars are tiny. Prices are higher than in the states; income is lower (The government taxes you to pay for things like “free” college, so you won’t have much to spend on antisocial things like your Wal-Mart plastic Christmas Tree or your second K-Mart plasma TV.)

 Mass transit is frequent and cheap,  but often crowded and occasionally unpleasant. The stifled desire to acquire something—large house, car, deposit account—is of course not quite destroyed by socialism, but rather is channeled into a sort of cynicism and anger, often leading to a hedonism of few children, late and long meals, and disco hours until the early morning. The number of Gucci like stores selling overpriced label junk like 200 Euro eye-glass frames and 1000 Euro leather bags to socialists is quite amazing.

 

A Party for Everything

Multiple political parties flourish, all with passionate single agenda constituents. Graffiti is not gang related, but mostly political and nonsensical. Media is divided by politics, a leftwing paper, a rightwing magazine. Unions control almost all government services. And yet class is firmly entrenched and aristocratic snobbery more pronounced. (We already see that strange symbiosis between socialism for everyone else, capitalism for a few, whether in Michelle’s clothes, the Obama’s mansion, the Kerry fortune, the Edwards compound, the Gore appurtenances, the Clinton speaking cash cow, and to many others to list).

Among upper-class Greeks, one is constantly reminded that their grandfather, their cousin, or mother-in-law was this minister once, or that writer years ago, or today a famous diplomat—anything to focus one’s attention beyond the possession of the normal flat in the normal apartment building and the normal tiny Fiat and the normal public education.

 

Ministries to be Milked

When I talk to well-off Italians and Greeks who have substantial homes by the sea not available to most others, one of three realities leak out: one, they have family money made decades ago by their ancestors that includes ancestral estates permissible before the period of supposed mandated equality of result. In other words, theirs got theirs and then helped make laws so no one else could.

Or, two, people simply cheat on taxes all the time. If you buy something, the offer comes to pay in cash. A Greek explained to me his government job is his official tax-paying day job; the expertise necessary for it is what he farms out at night and on weekends for cash that goes for a second home, a larger car, a vacation abroad.

 

Egalitarian Vampires

Or, three, the technocrats who run  these vast welfare states are not only well paid, but more importantly are able to garner cars, travel, and plush apartments as tax-free job related perks (cf. the current scandal in London). If being a “venture capitalist” is what wannabe Harvard kids in their 20s sought in the 1990s, being a bigwig Minister, with neo-classical office, state Mercedes, and official residence is the perennial European equivalent. This is a continent of Tom Daschles, who win by being exempt from the burden of government that they subject on others, and win again by having the contacts to sort out government contracts to crony-businesses.

My point? The more Europe professes to be egalitarian, the more cynical and conniving the people have become—almost as if the human craving for one’s own property and to make one one’s destiny cannot be denied by the state, but by needs will be channeled into what the state mandates as anti-social for most, but quietly a perk for a few.

 

Unhappy Socialist Campers

I’ve been reading a lot of commentary in Italian and Greek newspapers these last three weeks and talking to Italians, Greeks, and Turks during two long European lecture tours. Socialism surely does not make one happier, or content knowing that the resulting society is somehow more humane or caring. Instead each faction is constantly on the verge of striking against the public good. There are always the bad  “them”, easy-target public enemies among the rich and aristocratic who need to give away more to the “deserving.” The bank workers are in perpetual war against the garbage cleaners who hate the social service workers who whine about the fire and police—each convinced the public must grant more largess on themselves than on like others.

Just as the government is necessary to nanny one and all—and thereby earns both the demands  and resentment of the recipient for its caring—so too the United States serves the same role to Europe at large: hated and needed at the same time.

 

Parents Are Hated by Their Dependents

In Greece, they are being hit by a pandemic of Turkish over-lights in the Aegean, and rather cynical efforts of Turkish  money-making smugglers to buy wrecked freighters and beach them with hundreds of aliens from the Middle East on the shores of Aegean—Greece being the gateway to the EU money trough for supposed “political refugees”. Illegal aliens are everywhere in Athens. The country is sort of the front lines of European utopian pretension: what sounds good in Brussels is reified in the here and now in Greece with its porous maritime borders on the Middle East.

I would assume that if there weren’t a US-led NATO, some sort of shooting war would quickly break out over immigrants, Aegean air space, or Cyprus. To suggest that privately to Greeks is to earn a grudging  nod; to do so publicly is to get a fiery denunciation and yet another tutorial about the 1967 coup, and the Henry Kissinger intrigue in Cyprus, as prequel to Iraq and Bush.

 

Thoughts on DMV Health Care in extremis

Because I have traveled a great deal in my life, often recklessly so, alone, and to weird places in search of answers to topographical questions of the ancient Mediterranean world, and first-hand observations about battles and campaigns in out of the way places for several books— I have ended up over the last 36 years in a number of socialist hospitals: E-coli poisoning in Athens from tainted strawberries; a cut tendon on my index finger from a barbed wire fence in Sparta (with reaction to live tetanus vaccination); a severed ureter due to an impacted staghorn calculus kidney stone from dehydration of excavating at Corinth; a light case of malaria at Karnak, Egypt; an out of control, strep throat that turned into something more in Izmir, Turkey; a ruptured appendix, surgery, and peritonitis in Tripolis, Libya, and so on.

In each case, the care was terrible. A sole lonely doctor or maverick nurse in two cases saved my life, but on the average the facilities were filthy, and the employees akin to those in the government-run post office or bank. And a strange thing occurred as well: often the staff became mad at the patient: “Why did you come here with an appendix problem?”; You should have not let your strep get out of control!”; “If you don’t drink water, what do you expect!”; “See what happens when you don’t take all your quinine pills!”.

Socialism will always blame the patient (just watch when it comes here), I suppose for drawing on collective resources, and to focus on public enemies whose weight, smoking, or lifestyle (I do not smoke or drink, but exercise and am of reasonable weight) have betrayed the public ideal. (Fat people, and smokers (except our President) will soon become as hated in the socialist mind as jet skis, those in their 80s who want a bypass, Yukons, Tahoes and investment bankers.)

 

Europe is Europe, Because America is Not?

No, Europe should not only not be our model, but Euros know it should not be our model. A few brilliant Europeans whisper, “Of course, it is lost here, since no addict insidiously hooked on government entitlement ever gives such largess up. But you over there still have a chance.” For a few Europeans, America’s military (drawing on fewer people and less territory and GDP than the expanded EU) is the only hope for Western defense. It’s where most life-saving drugs will emerge, new technologies are birthed, and huge sophisticated markets grow for European goods. So they have a stake in not allowing us to become like them.

 

The Not-so-Kind Face of Socialism

One final thought: I’ve never met a beatific equality-of-result person. They are usually grim and angry warriors determined to right cosmic wrongs, eager to demonize those who ‘have too much’, convinced that the divine ends justify the demonic means.

In that regard, despite the hope and change rhetoric, when Obama went down that ‘spread the wealth’ path,  I feared that we would get the Rev. Wright race talk. It is no surprise that Obama invokes the constant bogeymen who do all sorts of terrible things, among them most prominently the Orwellian Goldstein figure of George W. Bush. There are no legitimate critics, only those  Obama & Co. claim  are shills for the insurance industries, who unfairly attack the Canadian health system, the greedy who go to Vegas and the Super bowl, the Neanderthal who cling to their guns, the dissidents  known as Nazis, stooges, mobs, and the well-dressed who dare to become rude to the Congresspeople.

The road to socialism is not natural. It must be paved with the hard work of class envy, demonization of the successful, and obfuscation that each new massive spending program that will raise both taxes and deficits (that’s the point, after all, to create so much red ink that we must raise taxes and redefine what constitutes income) must be passed immediately, without delay, now-or-never to stave off Biblical hunger, plague, and flood.

Or else!


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1 posted on 08/13/2009 6:55:02 AM PDT by Tolik
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2 posted on 08/13/2009 6:59:06 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: neverdem; Lando Lincoln; SJackson; dennisw; kellynla; monkeyshine; Alouette; nopardons; ...

 

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3 posted on 08/13/2009 7:00:00 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik

Bump for a great article.


4 posted on 08/13/2009 7:03:54 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Tolik
"When will America become Europe"

If by that you mean western Europe the answer is never. More likely the US will become the USSR or Yugoslavia. At some point the tax paying states will break away from New York, California, Michigan and the rest. It will be an ugly and ultimately self destructive conflict. France, Germany, Italy and Britain went out quietly with a whimper. If Obama, Pelosi and Reid are not stopped the US will go out with a bang.
5 posted on 08/13/2009 7:04:06 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Tolik

Actually Obama will head us to the Cuban model rather than the European model. Some companies in Europe are still allowed to earn profits.


6 posted on 08/13/2009 7:05:07 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Tolik

This is a great article. Thanks for posting. I have read much lately about the socialist paradise called Denmark. I certainly would not want to live there. The articles I have read indicate the poplualtion there has been reduced to trolls whose only survival is on the government teat. All groupthink all the time. No thanks....


7 posted on 08/13/2009 7:05:13 AM PDT by Commander X (Hey Barry, what are you hiding?)
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To: GonzoGOP

This is what I have been saying, the USA is due for a second civil war.


8 posted on 08/13/2009 7:07:27 AM PDT by Biggirl ("God Is Great, Beer Is Good, People Are Crazy"-Billy Cunnington :)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Tolik

Recently spent time in Greece and Italy as well. The observations here show real insight.


9 posted on 08/13/2009 7:12:26 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: screaminsunshine; GonzoGOP

Guys, I appreciate hyperbole as well, but you are overreaching. Ask anybody from the Eastern Europe, former USSR - we are not becoming them - it took bloody revolutions and wars to get there. If townhalls now are any indication for anything - its that Americans won’t let it happen. What can happen is a quiet slide into a welfare nanny state of European type - and it’s bad enough. And this danger is real. Claiming that USSR is just around the corner for us - is the best way to get ridiculed and rightfully so. And I lived there, I know.


10 posted on 08/13/2009 7:14:32 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik

Only one point to add.
Delusional and cynical europeans have few kids with no legacy to be proud of but a legacy of SHAME for the “western” “white” “judeo-christian” civilization” meanwhile the big arab-african(above all muslims),legals and illegals,are growing much more quickly AND DON’T SHARE our fading away values.
They are weighing heavily on our Nationals(socialized)Health Care and Social Security systems...

They are used by political croocks who give them benefits,amnesty and so on as a deal to gain votes.
They are used by multiculturalist ideologs to undermine the judeo-christian legacy.
They are used by cynical businessmen as low wage workers lowering the average incomes


11 posted on 08/13/2009 7:25:02 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: Tolik

Another excellent commentary by Hanson. Thanks to perceptive folks like him, at least we know what we have to look forward to.


12 posted on 08/13/2009 7:27:51 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Tolik
Actually i will argue that point. In Europe the tax consumers (moochers and looters) were mixed in with the tax payers (producers). They shared a common culture and were largely unarmed. There was no way for the tax payers to free themselves from the tax consumers. Most importantly flyover country no longer holds a common culture with the coasts. There are now two different Americas, and neither wants to become part of the other. Any time in history when the people of a nation start thinking in terms of US and THEM it will ultimately lead to US or THEM. Especially during times of economic collapse.

In the US the tax consumers are clustered in cities along the coast and the great lakes. The tax producers are in the countryside. There are entire states out west that have oil or other natural resources that can take care of themselves quite nicely, without the need to deal with the Eastern liberals or west coast loonies. They will try, either through 10th amendment measures or less likely outright secession, to break free of Washington.

But Washington can't let them go. Their entire world is held together by taking from the producers and giving to the consumers in exchange for their votes. If the producers refuse to be victims then the moochers and looters can't pay the bribes that keep them in power. They will have to fight.

If we are lucky the disaster of Obama will convince everyone to take a step back from the socialist experiment. But if they keep pushing the way they are then a breakup is all but inevitable.
13 posted on 08/13/2009 7:30:33 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Tolik
VDH needs to publish this under a leftist sounding pseudonym at solon.com or the new republic. The left would never read it if they knew it was him, but every stinking one of them needs to see what they are trying to impose on us.

He said it early on in his narrative but it needs to be re-stated: in neo-eu there are only two classes - the haves and the have-nots. There is little chance of crossing the line. And the only practical way to transition is to cheat. Playing by the rules relegates you to the back of the bus.

Come to think of it - perhaps that is why the left seeks socialism. Why shouldn't people of no ambition seek a society where the only thing asked of you is that you stand in line (actually they will ask a great many things of you but it starts and ends with endless lines).

Couple that with their "misery loves company" insistence that everybody needs to feeeeeeeel the pain, and I begin to understand why they are pushing so hard to ram this through..
14 posted on 08/13/2009 7:32:38 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Tolik

I used to watch the show “COPS”. They had one in Russia. What was amazing was the almost universal melancholy the people seemed to have. Many of them were usually sh**faced on Vodka to drown their sorrows.

I can see what Hanson is talking about here. Socialist systems kill the human spirit and breed contempt.


15 posted on 08/13/2009 7:33:50 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Question Marxist Authority)
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To: Tolik

Obama’s plan for America’s future, whatever his motivation or degree of success (and his lack of success is producing the identical result) will guarantee social instability into perpetuity. It’s a no win scenario for all concerned.

The ‘unifier’, by virtue of his brow beating tactics, if nothing else, will succeed in institutionalizing polarity in American society and politics.

A hard line now exists where in the past, actual hope for a more seamless society was possible. It will take literally decades to return America to our Pre-Obama social equilibrium, (if that is even possible) so much has he played the class/race card to exploit the remaining social problems in the U.S.

The pretension, spite and gratuitous insolence of deliberately ignoring or diminishing the colossal gains of minorities in America is THE fundamental and fatal shortcoming in Obama’s character. How can a man, himself the product of all and every largesse America promises to minorities, seek and obtain the Presidency of this country while accusing Americans of ‘bias’ ‘exploitation’ and ‘oppression’?

Will America EVER recover?


16 posted on 08/13/2009 7:34:03 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Tolik

Wrong. Obama and Company are trying to build a totalitarian Police State. They see the Constitution as an obsicle to be circunvented and overcome. They hate everything about free enterprise and capitalism. We have to turn up the heat.


17 posted on 08/13/2009 7:39:50 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: GonzoGOP

I call them taxtakers and Taxpayers. The MSM portrays the taxtakers as heros and the Taxpayers as evil Capitalists. I absolutely hate being reffered to as a “Taxpayer” and being fed the propaganda that the Socialist politicians are watching out for me and my money. Nothing could be further from the truth.


18 posted on 08/13/2009 7:44:33 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Tolik
I am going to have to refresh my mind on how the ‘French Revolution’ worked out for Europe. Because it sure appears like some of our liberals and high minded moderates are attempting an reenactment of certain characters of that time.
19 posted on 08/13/2009 7:45:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: Tolik

With this and the Oceania article, VDH is really on a roll this week.


20 posted on 08/13/2009 7:45:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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