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Actually i will argue that point. In Europe the tax consumers (moochers and looters) were mixed in with the tax payers (producers). They shared a common culture and were largely unarmed. There was no way for the tax payers to free themselves from the tax consumers. Most importantly flyover country no longer holds a common culture with the coasts. There are now two different Americas, and neither wants to become part of the other. Any time in history when the people of a nation start thinking in terms of US and THEM it will ultimately lead to US or THEM. Especially during times of economic collapse.

In the US the tax consumers are clustered in cities along the coast and the great lakes. The tax producers are in the countryside. There are entire states out west that have oil or other natural resources that can take care of themselves quite nicely, without the need to deal with the Eastern liberals or west coast loonies. They will try, either through 10th amendment measures or less likely outright secession, to break free of Washington.

But Washington can't let them go. Their entire world is held together by taking from the producers and giving to the consumers in exchange for their votes. If the producers refuse to be victims then the moochers and looters can't pay the bribes that keep them in power. They will have to fight.

If we are lucky the disaster of Obama will convince everyone to take a step back from the socialist experiment. But if they keep pushing the way they are then a breakup is all but inevitable.

I call them taxtakers and Taxpayers. The MSM portrays the taxtakers as heros and the Taxpayers as evil Capitalists. I absolutely hate being reffered to as a “Taxpayer” and being fed the propaganda that the Socialist politicians are watching out for me and my money. Nothing could be further from the truth.

In the US the tax consumers are clustered in cities along the coast and the great lakes. The tax producers are in the countryside.

You have it exactly backward.

Washington
Oregon
California
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois
Indiana
Michigan
New York
New Jersey
Georgia
Massachusetts
Connecticut
New Hampshire
Delaware
Colorado
Nevada
Texas

These are all tax producing states. They contribute more to the Federal Government than they receive. They are clustered along the coast and the Great Lakes. The rest, the "countryside" as you call it, are all tax consumers. There is your welfare state.

This is not by accident. It was set up that way as a matter of national policy. The productive people are supporting the goobers.

In the US the tax consumers are clustered in cities along the coast and the great lakes. The tax producers are in the countryside.

Lovely thought, but unfortunately dead wrong.

It's been known for a good many years that the blue states tend to be net tax payers and the red states tend to be net consumers. Within states you are of course quite correct that central cities are financial black holes.

Here's report from several years back that documents this pattern in great detail.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/sr139.pdf

I have no idea how the recent financial meltdown has affected the situation, but I suspect it's hit federal income from blue states harder than it has from red states, reducing or possibly even reversing the traditional gap.