Posted on 08/05/2009 6:30:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
There is no evidence that he did, which means that he was not elected President because his legal name did not appear on the ballot.
We the people don’t know what name he used the second time he was sworn in by Justice Roberts, do we?
LOL! Birther cranks strain at the gnat of being given the standard Hawaii birth document instead of some alleged Sooper Sekrit “long form”, and then swallow the herd of camels accompanying this obvious forgery. If it came out that this “Kenya Birth Certificate” had been faxed from the Kinko’s in Abilene, Texas as part of a deal where somebody sent his bank account data to a former Nigerian prince, these moonbats would find a way to rationalize that, too.
What is the most effective way to fool most of the sheeple? At the age of 44, you write an autobiography full of lies, falsehoods, and inaccurate claims. You simply pen a myth about yourself, knowing the media and the stupid Democrats will drool over it, not ever even entertaining the thought of vetting it for truth and accuracy. Obama is a foreign imposter and usurper! Something has got to be done to remove this fraud from the Oval Office!
I followed the link, and can't find where the article provides an example of a known genuine Kenyan birth certificate from that date (heck, that month would do) that gives the nation's name as "Republic of Kenya". I'm sure this oversight will be corrected soon; perhaps I ought to drop the author a line....
“Many sheeple have been questioning why the birthers have been claiming that this might be real when it is a copy and not the original, like the Hawaiian one birthers want to see. The reason is that this is a copy of an actual registration. The Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth isnt a copy of a real birth certificate. They could be obtained by citizens who werent naturally born. Obamas sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, was born in Indonesia. No one disputes this. Guess what? She has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth, too. How can this be? Hawaiian law didnt require people to be natural born citizens, born in Hawaii, in order to obtain one. Therefore, Obama hasnt showed anything resembling proof of his citizenship. This is why this birther thing is still an issue! How can it be solved? All that is required to put all of this to rest is for Obama to give Hawaii permission, in his presidential capacity, to show people the long-form certificate. Its that simple to resolve. So, why all the secrecy?”
I think this pretty much puts in proper perspective for the air heads out there like Olbermann and O ‘Reilly and Ann Coulter etc.
The vast majority of us here are not kooks and scoundrels. Why all this energy in determining whether we are or not and whether the president is or isn’t...?
WHY NOT SHOW YOUR GD LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.. AND BE DONE WITH THIS, MR. PRESIDENT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QUIT BEING SUCH AN @SS HOLE ABOUT IT....
Steve-b, How did you know I live in Abilene. I didn’t get a fax ever, I swear, LOL
Don’t think I understand what you’re saying... or maybe I do. Speak plainly on what you mean to say, please.
This is true. Everything we know of this guy is from, guess who? HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can you imagine if this were the case with G W?
I’m past the stage of laughing about this...
Just produce your real birth records along with the other documents of your education and work.
This thing makes the Bush National Guard documents used by Dan Rather look like the model of authenticity. That clear enough for ya?
I fail to see where he provided a link to Kenyan BC. Can you show us?
You will find them insisting that it has not been authenticated, nor has it been debunked. This is Orly Taitz's own position.
The real issue, repeated many times on these threads, and just now by you, is as follows.
Does the B/C match other B/Cs of the same period?
Does the book and register number match a record in the Birth registry?
And do the details in the registry match?
These items alone are important. Any assumptions the brownshirt media might have about Mombasan registration workflow and letterheading fifty years ago are simply not relevant to the discussion. Only the primary sources matter.
“These allegations are false... and I need to get back to work for the American people.” - Bill Clinton
I think the main argument in debunking it is that it’s an almost exact copy of one from Australia down to the names and numbers. It’s in the Oops thread post 291.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=251
I think the author of this article says from the start, that the Kenyan BC may be a forgery.
My problem with it, is that is has an embossed raised seal. In other words, it’s an original copy of the copy of his Kenyan BC.
Therefore, where did come from? It implies that it was stolen.
For example, my BC copy has an embossed seal.
This raises the speculation that it may have been in the divorce papers of his mother, when she filed for divorce in the 1964, the date on the Kenyan document.
So who clapped it?
The fact that she’s not telling us who the anonymous donor is, smacks with a big question mark.
I’ve said all along, that this document may have been planted by the Obama people to discredit this movement.
I for one, look askance at this. I don’t really care about whether he was born here or not.
I want to know about the other things. Like the courses he took in college... his calendar as State Congressman...His law school writings... His Hawaiian education.
Why is it you can go, or your used to go to Dixon and Eureka and there would old timers telling stories of young Reagan.
Where are the stories about this guy?
Where he did get ALL THIS MONEY to out finance Hillary? Where?
I suspect it was from foreign sources in Saudi and Syria and Iran etc. etc.
And no doubt he got alot from the likes of Chavez and maybe even this guy Zalaya (sp?) in Hondurus...
If we agree, it’s to agree that we shouldn’t put anymore energy in this Kenyan BC.
In the meantime Mr. President...QUIT ACTING LIKE AN @SS HOLE AND PRODUCE THESE DOCUMENTS.
People are missing the point on this one. It doesn't matter whether it is real or not. What we now have are two conflicting pieces of digital evidence ( Obamas COLB and the Kenyan BC ). The only way for the judge in CA to resolve this is to order discovery of the actual hard copies from Hawaii ( he can have the State Department request them from Kenya, but in all reality, they don't have to comply ). The main reason for producing this document now is to force production of the Hawaii BC.
Ah, I see.
Despite your calls for the document to be tested against known documents of the right time and place, you are dogmatically convinced that it’s a hoax.
You call for supporting documents. However - typical lefty tactic - you inoculate your position against the truth by insisting that any supporting evidence that the ‘hoaxer’ DOES turn up will just be proof of his/her incompetence, in not bribing someone sooner.
So any new data that turns up will confirm you in your delusion.
Your position is intellectually dishonest: please snap out of it. Joint the rest of us, who remain ready to be convinced of the truth whatever it might be.
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