The government will have direct access to all bank accounts for electronic funds transfer to pay

RUSH: Now, somebody tell me how in the world anyone could take that out of context. That is a full 43 seconds, no edits, we didn't take sentences out of order and assemble them in a way we wanted. A single payer health care plan, universal health care plan, that's what I'd like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately, because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House. Now they've done that, now they're going for single payer health care. I don't know why they did this. We think of these people as brilliant in the Alinsky sense. All they're doing is calling attention his lies. All they're doing is calling attention to his deceit. All they're doing is causing people to go back and get these full fledged clips and play them all over the place, radio, television. Linda Douglass looks like a sap. Linda Douglass looks like what she is, a propagandist former employee of state-controlled media.

On page 16 of the House bill, it's right there, and you've heard people quote from it. I'm going to summarize it, page 16 : private insurance will become illegal. Insurance companies cannot write new policies, people will lose their existing policy if they change jobs, if they change coverage, or if they change prices. Once any aspect of your private health insurance changes after this bill goes into effect, you can't renew it. You have to go public option. On page 29 of the House bill, it is admitted that our health care will be rationed. On page 42, the health choices commissioner will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. Page 58, every person will be issued a national ID health card, and it will probably have that stupid logo that reminds me of World War II, frankly, when you look at it, you'll say the same thing. The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer to pay. Yes, my friends, the federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer, meaning from your account to them. They will be able to debit your account for health expenses. That's on page 59, go get the bill. I'm summarizing here for you.

On page 72, all private health care plans must conform to government rules to participate in a health care exchange. Any individual who doesn't have acceptable health care defined by the government will be taxed two-and-a-half percent of their income each year. Officers and employees of government health care bureaucracy will have access to all American financial and personal records, page 195. Page 203, the tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as a tax. I'm quoting from the actual bill. I've got numerous examples but I'm way over time here. But, Ms. Douglas, you've been made a sap on this, and you've only caused even more attention to be focused on what your boss actually intends and what is in the House bill. It's there. This campaign of fraud and deceit is exactly why the American people are up in arms, and it's exactly why you and your party are looking at them with deep contempt. This wasn't part of the plan. The American people weren't supposed to figure all this out. They are just supposed to bow down and say, "Thank you for caring about us."

This is the fleckman twitter page link:

Health Care Bill Summary From Peter Fleckenstein’s Twitter Account: http://twitter.com/fleckman

Peter Fleckenstein’s Twitter Account ^ | July 24, 2009 | Peter Fleckenstein

Per upchuck, going to the bill itself may provide more clarity.

So...

Page 16 of the House Health Care plan says:

“Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of the year the legislation becomes law.”

Also see:
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=332548165656854

The flecksman twitter page is one of the misleading lists I wrote about.

PG 195 officers & employees of HealthCare Administration (Government) will have access to ALL Americans financial/personal records.

Note the emphasized "ALL."

Then note the part of the bill from pg 195 that says (emphasis mine), "“...shall disclose to of- ficers and employees of the Health Choices Ad- ministration or such State-based health insur- ance exchange, as the case may be, return information of any taxpayer whose income is relevant in determining any affordability credit described in subtitle C of title II of the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009."

This does not apply to ALL taxpayers, just those that will get a tax credit to help pay for their health insurance.

If the government is going to be help some people pay their insurance, doesn't it make sense that a protocol be established to determine who these people are? That's what this part of the bill does.

I do believe that the general intent of the bill is to unconstitutionally take control of the medical services of our economy. This particular provision, however, could simply be an attempt to state that the services to be provided can be paid for via direct billing from the customer accounts. If I were setting up a hospital, I might include very similar wording in the administrative directives. My point is that being a private entity, you would have no concern about the implementation of these directives at my private hospital.

I provide my observations simply to point out that there is a somewhat logical explanation for these provisions. Conservatives attempting to undermine the bill; e.g., us, may find the response to our complaints to be that this is merely a statement that the agencies will be able to direct bill, therefore, what’s the big fuss. At that point, our response should be that another valid interpretation of this provision is that clients will have to accede to direct billing from their bank accounts in order to get services. A true liberal will counter that our interpretation is a “stretch”. At this juncture, you, the conservative, should point out that nobody would have to worry about such language being a “stretch” if the enterprise were left in the private sector, where it belongs!

Thus, I am not trying to give cover to this bill. Instead, I am suggesting that this particular provision may simply be the result of haste on their part and the dangers entailed from these provisions are inherent only because they apply, inappropriately to a government enterprise.

The wording of this provision and others demonstrates that the writers have no general regard for individual liberty. It also demonstrates a false level of detail attempting to mislead the public into believing it is well thought out.

I think that Free Republic should devote a thread to the best arguments to bring up in town halls and short discussions. So far, the videos have produced one fellow who commented that Congress wants to push healthcare reform through in 6 weeks when Obama took 6 months to choose a dog for his kids. Another good rejoinder was the guy who asked the congressman why he wasn’t going to be covered by this “great” healthcare plan. [The congressman made NO response.] One-liners such as these provide sound bites which can have a big impact and are easy to grasp by the general public.

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