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To: Abd al-Rahiim

Like a number of others here, you are confusing citizenship with Natural Born citizenship.

The case you cite only dealt with citizenship, not Natural Born citizenship.


1,161 posted on 08/07/2009 4:35:46 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: savedbygrace; MHGinTN
MHGinTN,

You should've at least glossed over United States v. Wong Kim Ark before you characterized my post as "obamanoid crap."

In that case, Justice Gray wrote, "In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question, said: 'The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.' And he proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision. 21 Wall. 167."

In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite wrote, "The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."

Going back to United States v. Wong Kim Ark, Justice Gray wrote, "It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born."

QED. You lose.

1,164 posted on 08/07/2009 5:36:43 PM PDT by Abd al-Rahiim
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