1 posted on
08/02/2009 12:58:23 PM PDT by
BP2
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80 posted on
08/02/2009 2:22:40 PM PDT by
TheBigIf
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Placemarker and bookmarked. Outstanding!
81 posted on
08/02/2009 2:22:40 PM PDT by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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85 posted on
08/02/2009 2:26:53 PM PDT by
lp boonie
(Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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98 posted on
08/02/2009 2:38:36 PM PDT by
Dryman
(Now, Back to Lurking)
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Nice job. Thank you for posting. BHO needs to release this, which is what should be in the HI sealed files. These were twins, born on the same day as BHO. If their mother can get theirs, he can get his. Why doesn't he? I think we all know the answer.
![Photobucket](http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt231/mojitojoe1/BO%20Younger%20years/090728nordyke.jpg)
![Photobucket](http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt231/mojitojoe1/BO%20Younger%20years/090728birthcert.gif)
![Photobucket](http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt231/mojitojoe1/BO%20Younger%20years/barack_obama_birth_certificate_hawa.jpg)
99 posted on
08/02/2009 2:39:21 PM PDT by
mojitojoe
(All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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From: http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6908 Update: A commenter by the name of Holly at the CountryFirst forum made the following observations: ..... Important side note: the Certificate issue date of Feb 17, 1964, is JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AFTER KENYA BECAME INDEPENDENT on Dec. 12, 1963. TO THIS DATE, this may be the only certificate on Kenyan file today if British documents were sent to the UK for archiving leading up Kenya becoming an independent nation. If you note the date on the Certified Copy, it was created by the Registrar in Kenya on Feb. 17, 1964. The Kenyan Birth Certificate would have been issued in the midst of the divorce AFTER the divorce was filed by Ann in Hawaii on Jan. 20, but BEFORE the divorce was granted by Judge King on March 20. Furthermore, its quite plausible that once Ann actually had this Kenyan birth certificate in her hands, and the divorce was granted on March 20, her attorney, George Kerr, counseled her on Hawaiian birth certificate loopholes and told her how to file for a Hawaiian Certificate of Delayed Birth to get Welfare or OTHER support for young Obama as a child of a non-supporting foreign national. As Hawaiian law allows, that CODB could have been upgraded later to a Certificate of Live Birth in the 60s or 70s, which would then be a root document of the shorter Certification of Live Birth we see today presented as proof of birth from Barack Hussein Obama II.
101 posted on
08/02/2009 2:40:15 PM PDT by
Kandy
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If the Kenya document is real, I would find it interesting that his birth was registered in Kenya ( Aug. 5, 1961 ) before it was registered in Hawaii ( Aug. 8, 1961 ). It would appear that Obama was born in Kenya and the family flew back to Hawaii a day or two after the birth to have him registered in Hawaii by the 8th. The newspaper announcements make sense with this scenario.
And, if it is real, it is likely that the document in the scan was transferred from the original British document before those British-Kenyan documents were moved to England. It's reasonable that they would do this for all Kenyan citizens around this time. Most Kenyan citizens born prior to 1963 probably have this same 1964 cross-over date on their Kenyan birth certificate, if this is the case.
There is also a possibility that the birth was called in to Kenya the day after. Even if that is the case, it would mean that the baby was registered Kenyan/British before he was registered a US citizen. It would be unreasonable to call him a Natural Born US Citizen if that is what happened.
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122 posted on
08/02/2009 2:50:12 PM PDT by
badgerlandjim
(Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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124 posted on
08/02/2009 2:52:20 PM PDT by
silverleaf
(If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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Thanks so much for posting this on its own ....Too much info is flowing around
137 posted on
08/02/2009 3:05:58 PM PDT by
woofie
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Since a child was an issue in the divorce proceedings, it is quite likely that a certificate was required to verify that fact. If that is the case, a copy of the certificate should have been made a part of the official file and should still be available. Since divorce records are public information, a request for the full file, including all supporting documents, might be very interesting. (That is a possible source of the document now at issue.)
Would it not be poetic justice to see one whose national political accent began with release of an opponent’s divorce records brought down by his mother’s divorce records?
164 posted on
08/02/2009 3:48:24 PM PDT by
etcb
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Great work! I enlarged and enhanced a little.
The issue is, that ultimately this thing needs to be produced physically for 3rd party profession examination...just like Obama's alleged Hawaiin Long Form needs to.
![](http://www.jeffhead.com/images/BHOKenyaBC.jpg)
166 posted on
08/02/2009 3:55:05 PM PDT by
Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Yep, the dates sure do line up and that's a fine piece of detective work on your part.
However as I see it, there's still a few hurdles to overcome. They are:
- Certify the Kenyan birth certificate as authentic. Hopefully the original book it was filed in (book 44B, p. 5733) still exists in an archive somewhere and can certify the birth certificate. Based on the timeline, the Government of the U.K. may have it in their archives, unlikely it exists in Kenya anymore. Either that, or the Deputy Registrar is still alive and can visually do so.
- Somehow your theory that Dunham and her attorney George Kerr obtained a DELAYED Certificate of Live Birth then had it converted to a COLB.
I'm no legal expert by a long shot, but if there's any room for "doubt" left in your theory I think it's these two spots. Assuming one or both can be nailed as true, it appears that there's a hell of a case to be made that Obama's not a legitimate President.
Way to go!
167 posted on
08/02/2009 3:59:11 PM PDT by
usconservative
(When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Anyone catch the irony of the divorce date?
January 20th, 1964 is INAUGURATION DAY!!!!
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186 posted on
08/02/2009 5:17:38 PM PDT by
chaosagent
(Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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The Constitution of the Republic of Kenya 1963 (as Amended to 2008)
CHAPTER I
The Republic of Kenya
1. Declaration of Republic.
Kenya is a sovereign Republic.
1A. Political system.
The Republic of Kenya shall be a multiparty democratic state.
[As amended by Act 9 of 1997, s. 2]
2. Public Seal.
The Public Seal of Kenya shall be such device as may be prescribed by or under an Act of
Parliament.
http://www.constitutionnet.org/en/vl/constitution-republic-kenya-1963-amended-2008
191 posted on
08/02/2009 5:58:51 PM PDT by
plenipotentiary
(Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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192 posted on
08/02/2009 6:12:16 PM PDT by
The Californian
(The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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