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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

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To: Tennessee Nana

Oh, I looked at the number without my glasses


7,801 posted on 08/07/2009 6:30:56 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

So, what’s the theory in the Globe?


7,802 posted on 08/07/2009 6:47:31 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: editor-surveyor
If our discussion comes down to say anchor babies, imho the 14th A. doesn't apply to them because they aren't legally resident, their parents aren't legally domiciled (you could certainly question national loyalties in such a scenario), and they aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the US (in fact they are illegally resident here.)
7,803 posted on 08/07/2009 6:50:03 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: Ciexyz

The parents of Bruce Lee were foreign nationals on tour with a Chinese acrobatic group in the US when Bruce was born, which gave him US citizenship in addition to his dual citizenship abroad. As US born, even tho he spoke with a thick Chinese accent due to being raised abroad - Hong Kong - he could technically have run for President - if he had lived to age 35. He came back to the US at a young age and had no trouble exercising his right to stay here. I welcome additional input on this, but I believe someone in his position could certainly run for President if they were US born, and then renounced the foreign half of their dual citizenship by age 21 for full American citizenship, even if they were raised abroad.
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The 14th A. says: “Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”

Were Bruce Lee or his parents (I ask this because of SCOTUS precedent and also in relation to the anchor babies issue - [http://www.examiner.com/x-10317-San-Diego-County-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m7d1-California-is-closer-to-ending-illegal-Anchor-Baby-births]) subject to the jurisdiction of the US? Were they domiciled in the US? Were they legally resident in the US?


7,804 posted on 08/07/2009 6:56:16 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: null and void

Wow, that verse seems to have him “pegged.” What’s left now, but to pray. HIS plan must come to pass.


7,805 posted on 08/07/2009 6:57:41 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (R.I.P. My Beautiful America - Land of the Free & Home of the Brave - 20 January 2009)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Interesting point in your 7789--I assume what you are saying in response to my comments about the efficacy of a marriage under circumstances where it might be illegal as contracted or where it might not constitute a legal marriage at civil law in a particular jurisdiction is that Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann might have contracted a Shira Law marriage which might have some degree of legal protection under the agreement ceding Coast Province to Kenya.

Although I recognize it as speculative, it seems fairly likely to me that they were married in Kenya. His tribal area was on the other side of the country. So I doubt the agreement had much impact.

On the other hand, the issue does cause you to think about what kind of marriage they might have contracted (civil v. tribal v. islamic). I have thought it might be productive to look at the records in Kenya to see if there is in fact any indication of some legal ceremony there.

I haven't paid much attention to that because it seems pretty clear to me under US law that they would be held to be married for purposes of the citizenship law which is the primary substantive impact of the issue.

7,806 posted on 08/07/2009 7:14:12 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: null and void

I hardly think that 0 can be called the “king of peace” (vs. 2).

He’s nothing more than a two-bit hustler with a slick tongue who has been groomed by his socialist handlers to do what he’s doing right now in Washington.

Quit glorifying him. He’s certainly dangerous, but so are we. It’s time to stand up against his garbage and take our country back, and that can’t happen as long as we look at him as some sort of pre-ordained antiChrist.


7,807 posted on 08/07/2009 7:23:49 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: Beloved Levinite; null and void

Hebrews 7:3 is about Jesus..

Hbr 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

Hbr 7:2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

Hbr 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Hbr 7:4 Now consider how great this man [was], unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils. Hebrews 7:1-4


7,808 posted on 08/07/2009 7:25:06 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: David
On the other hand, the issue does cause you to think about what kind of marriage they might have contracted (civil v. tribal v. islamic). I have thought it might be productive to look at the records in Kenya to see if there is in fact any indication of some legal ceremony there.

You are right that Orly should look at the records in Kenya, but Kenya is not the best place to look at the moment where Barry's cousin is in charge.

Indonesia is the best place to look. I mean, surely, they had to satisfy Indonesian authority that they were married and Barry was adopted to be able to live there legally and attend school.

7,809 posted on 08/07/2009 7:35:05 AM PDT by m4629 (politically incorrect, and proud of it)
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To: Tennessee Nana

OK, I did not see the context. But, sorry, but this does not make sense to me. Certainly Jesus had a father (ahem...Father God, and at the least earthly father Joseph, who had to raise Him.)And Jesus had no mother? Who was Mary, if she was not the “mother” Jesus? Could He have survived to adulthood on His own? I’m sorry, but this verse is not easily reconciled.


7,810 posted on 08/07/2009 7:37:22 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (R.I.P. My Beautiful America - Land of the Free & Home of the Brave - 20 January 2009)
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To: Beloved Levinite

When Melchisedec met Abraham He wasnt yet Jesus...

He was called the Word...


7,811 posted on 08/07/2009 7:43:18 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I found the information about the babysitter that I was seeking. And I don't thik that it has been mentioned on this thread, so here it is:

Obama 'mama': 15 days from birth to Seattle class

"On July 29, the University of Washington e-mailed WND Dunham's complete grade transcript covering her attendance at the university. The university confirmed Dunham's classes starting in the fall of 1961 were night classes. The transcript clearly documents that Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for two classes that began on Aug. 19, 1961: Anthropology 100, "Introduction to the Study of Man" and Political Science 201, "Modern Government.""

The interview with the babysitter is interesting and provides support for the time line that put her physically in Seattle in February 1962--it doesn't provide any support for Corsi's proposition (derived from the U of W records) that she was on campus taking classes on August 19.

We have seen another document confirming that the classes for which she was registered fall quarter 1961 were extension classes which she could have been taking from anywhere. Which is consistent with my own recollection.

Corsi's August 19 date for physical attendance at classes is wrong. He may think he got it from the U of W but his description of emails and the like is a little suspect. Careful inquiry would confirm the state of facts.

If she was in a night class in fall quarter, classes started in the last week of September or the first week of October. She wasn't in class at Washington on August 19.

7,812 posted on 08/07/2009 7:47:42 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: patriot08

Here’s some info straight from the rumor mill that’s 95%.

It would seem that a retired FBI agent has been in Kenya for the past 5,6,7 months working for Orly. It is he that was supposed to have gotten a copy of the BC and was headed to Washington or was already in D.C. before the BC was released.

My source was pretty sure of her facts.


7,813 posted on 08/07/2009 7:58:15 AM PDT by Author2
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To: David
Indeed, perhaps Stanley Ann and Barack had a Kenyan marriage cert and that is the missing page form the court filings on divorce. If they were married in Kenya, would that establish dual cit for Stanley Ann? How would that effect birth of the baby in Kenya, or in Hawaii, or in Canada? Would the grandmother have wanted the child to have AMerican citizenship so she registered him as HAwaiian born or born to an Hawaiian resident?

I would still like to see legal documents that show when Barry Soetoro had a court change his name to Barack Hussein Obama. I believe he's an illegal alien, legally/illegally.

7,814 posted on 08/07/2009 8:23:04 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Swordmaker

He said he’d take it down and that it been sent to him by “one of Orly’s friends”.

[Makes ya wonder, doesn’t it?]


7,815 posted on 08/07/2009 8:24:10 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away..............)
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To: SeattleBruce

Si !!


7,816 posted on 08/07/2009 8:25:43 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: David

Yes, I noticed the discrepancy in dates. The baby sitter said they were “night” classes — presumably because that’s when she baby sat little Barry. But, she also says it was in January and February of 1962. She does not corraborate the rocord for August, 1961.

I think 1961 was when Ann was staying with her mother’s friend — before she’d moved into the 3 apartment house managed by Toutonghi. And Toutonghi says that she moved into her own house that she and her husband purchased at the end of Feb. 1962 and her relationship with Ann Dunham ended.

The UW records that I have seen either are too dim to read, or they don’t mention Aug. 1961. In any case, that class didn’t start until the end of Sept. 1961. Where was Ann Obama staying during that month? Aug-Sept, 1961.

Sorry if I meant to imply something different.


7,817 posted on 08/07/2009 8:27:06 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: m4629

Marriage was likely in Hawaii to Lolo and Barry was adopted in Hawaii. Records like that would be in Hawaiian Vital Records, and with staunch obamasycophantic standing at the gates, the records are safe from public disclosure until a judge sends a court order. Even then, a person who would make the statement Fukino made declaring the affirmative action liar-in-chief to be natural born when he definitely is not, according to his own words, well, such prostration for her little Marxist messiah could take ugly illicit characteristics if she worried that he could be exposed.


7,818 posted on 08/07/2009 8:29:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Should I feel bad I'm cheering on The Globe?
7,819 posted on 08/07/2009 8:40:54 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Salamander

I saw the same image on TRSOL as well. Phil did take it down. I saw it on one other site as well, just can’t remember where right now.


7,820 posted on 08/07/2009 8:56:37 AM PDT by GregNH
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