Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[nikos1121]

It was a one page document with the items “written in.” I think it actually used the same form.

Then someone posted the Kenyan birth certficate with Prince Charles.

I mean, the Obama Kenyan BC should be easy to disprove if it’s a fake.

I just want to know where it came from.

Sending it to the Taitz anon makes sense, but who sent it to her, and why to her? Why not release it to the Enquirer.

ONe thing for sure...if this hits the tabloids then Katie bar the door, because all hell’s breaking loose.

[Fresh Wind]

Right answer, wrong reason.

[bustinchops]

Very true. But I’m sure the left is still chafing from the drubbing Dan Blather got and wouldn’t mind giving a dose of payback via an internet hoax. Further, it wouldn’t take all that much to create this document. I’m not saying it’s a forgery - I’m just saying proceed slowly, quietly and cautiously until it’s confirmed (IF it’s confirmed as valid and truthful).

As for using their time more productively, we know many on the left have nothing better to do than harass conservatives. I think much of the assault on Palin arises from too much free time on the hands of many lefties and an unbidden and unabated hatred for everything she embraces. Something about her has struck such fear and ire in their souls, logic doesn’t enter into it.

[autumnraine]

She didn’t make a ‘non-sensical statement’ that she gave birth to her own son. She witnessed Obama SR’s father SECOND WIFE give birth to Obama Sr. Why can’t everyone understand that Sr’s father and Sr himself had MULTIPLE WIVES. The “grandmother” was Obama Sr’s ‘mother’ in the sense that she was married to Sr’s father and being the THIRD WIFE, watched the SECOND WIFE give birth to Sr.

[Fresh Wind]

At any rate this document was either purloined from some archival court record, or it was among the personal documents of either Stanly Ann or Obama Sr.

Or one of Obama Sr.'s relatives in Kenya.

[autumnraine]

She didn’t make a ‘non-sensical statement’ that she gave birth to her own son. She witnessed Obama SR’s father SECOND WIFE give birth to Obama Sr. Why can’t everyone understand that Sr’s father and Sr himself had MULTIPLE WIVES. The “grandmother” was Obama Sr’s ‘mother’ in the sense that she was married to Sr’s father and being the THIRD WIFE, watched the SECOND WIFE give birth to Sr.

[autumnraine]

I think someone claimed it was from the law firm that handled the Obama divorce, so it would have been in THEIR files, not in the Hawaiian or Kenyan government. Just sitting in the box of files stored wherever the old records from this case was stored.

[Fred Nerks]

...It seems the Coastal Registrar's office started calling itself the "Republic of Kenya" BEFORE Dec. 12, 1964 to protect its rights and not be annexed by neighboring Zanzibar.

The facts still line up for the Kenyan birth certificate to be legitimate.

That makes so much sense it has to be the best news yet...but be prepared to repeat yourself at least another hundred times before it sinks in...I'm getting tired and cranky, how about you? (little lol)

hmmm...thinking, maybe you need to put that up on a post of its own?

[Tennessee Nana]

Hope the Kenyan document is the real Mccoy...

[EBH]

I do not think there are enough lamp posts in Washington D.C. to do that sort of judicial action justice...

And that is why we are living in very dangerous times.

[Scanian]

JimRob, for one. Nobody suggested the Kenyan KOLB was proof of anything—just that Orly obtained it and submitted it to the court for authentication. WND claims to have others with the same names on them—EF Lavender included.

Some strange coincidences—overly cute ones, really—but we’ve seen coincidences before. They DO exist.

[Fred Nerks]

I’ve been suggesting that scenario because it makes the most sense. There were twelve (hand)numbered pages in the FOI released divorce documents. Eight are shown here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9694026/Obama-64-Divorce-Decree-Plains-Radio

Although there’s no evidence of a traditional marriage, and the divorce has been called a ‘fantasy divorce’ - for the purposes of custody, divorce would be recommended by her lawyer.

What items of identification would be required?

Her own birth certificate.
Something to identify the ‘father’
Identification for the child.
Marriage certificate...maybe?

These are items that IMO would NOT be covered by the FOI request. The items would however still be filed in archives with the original divorce documents.

Who ever completed the FOI request...would have realised the significance, methinks...

[MissTickly]

I haven’t forgotten a single audacious thing he’s done. Including giving Hillary and McCain the finger.

[nathanbedford]

It appears from the Columbia Encyclopedia, sixth edition, that as early as 1920 the coastal strip was regarded to be a separate political entity called "Protectorate of Kenya" as distinguished from the "Kenya Colony." When or whether this strip became for a time a part of Tanzania should be researched. Perhaps it was only a principality belonging to the Sultan of Zanzibar rather than a part of Tanzania? I am particularly interested in what was called August 4, 1961, and of course in February 1964. At any rate, we have a starting point. Here is the blurb from the Encyclopedia:

In 1903, the first settlers of European descent established themselves as large-scale farmers in the highlands by taking land from the Kikuyu, Masai, and others. At the same time, Indian merchants moved inland from the coast. In 1920, the territory was renamed and its administration changed; the interior became Kenya Colony and a coastal strip (10 mi/16 km wide) was constituted the Protectorate of Kenya. From the 1920s to the 40s, European settlers controlled the government and owned extensive farmlands; Indians maintained small trade establishments and were lower-level government employees; and Africans grew cash crops such as coffee and cotton on a small scale, were subsistence farmers, or were laborers in the towns (especially Nairobi). (Emphasis supplied)

[thesearethetimes...]

My thoughts exact. Just because the Kenyan/British legal authorities initially may not have used a stapler, does not mean that Stanley Ann Dunham, her lawyer, or whoever else had possession of the document,at any point in time since, for whatever reason, did not either.

[Eagle Forgotten]

I agree that inquiring about the provenance of this document is a good place to start. It’s been published by World Net Daily, which says that it was provided by Orly Taitz. Here’s the information about provenance from WND: “Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn’t want his name known because ‘he’s afraid for his life.’”

The judge may find that explanation to be just a little bit too convenient. If I were a judge, I’d want a solid basis before issuing a subpoena demanding that a foreign government produce certain documents. The judge’s problem here is that the only identifiable person associated with this document is Taitz, who, as far as the WND story indicates, cannot personally vouch for its authenticity. The judge has no way of knowing whether Taitz’s anonymous source is just some high school kid who’s good at editing images.

[musicman]

BFLR

[deks]

See #232 here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304917/posts?page=232#232

[boxerblues]

The fact that there is a picture of paper, not a scanned thingy that may not even be solid, is more solid evidence

I read somewhere on FR that Orly(sp) is going to Great Britain to have it verified. I wish her luck.

[rovenstinez]

I think we ALL have a lot to be indebted for the sacrifice and labor of Alan Keyes. He stands pretty tall in my books. A real contribution to the LAW and application in our society.