Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[Polarik]

Sorry I have not responded sooner, but in addition to working on my updated report, I've been involved in a really huge mailing list of people following who have been researching a number of leads.

However, the bottom line is that it's another BOGUS BIRTH DOCUMENT. It's not a birth certificate at all.

Here are a few findings by the members of the group and from other contacts:

I am amazed at the cluelessness of many people in this forum about the above obvious fake document. For instance: Kenya didn’t become a republic until December 1964; E.F Lavender is a common detergent in Kenya & the certificate# 44 0 47 is laughable: 47 = he’s the 44th US President, O = Obama & 47 = his age. Are all these coincidental you lunatics.

Above all, Kenya is one of the most corrupt nations in the world & any body can obtain a forged document in minutes. The person who made this document was a person who wanted to make some few quick & easy dollars from brain-dead birther lunatics.

Rallying around such blatant forgeries only helps to discredit ‘birther’ lunatics. BTW, thanks for giving unemployed Kenyan guys more $$$ to continue feeding you guys with blatant forgeries! Grow up guys!

And this:

In 1961, hospitals in Kenya did issue birth certificates. Starting in 1964,so did the Ministry of Home Affairs, the Civil Registration Department, the National Registration Bureau, Immigration Department, Registrar General, National Social Security Fund, and the National Hospital Insurance Fund.

The document below purports to be a GOVERNMENTAL birth registry from 1961. It most definitely is not. It is a fake and a poor one at that, starting with the wrong title of the document; the wrong official name of the country; wrong name of the province, etc..

Consider these 3 historical facts which the forger got dead wrong:

1. Kenyan official documents did NOT bear the name "REPUBLIC of Kenya" until 1964, if only because the Republic of Kenya was proclaimed in December
1963.

2. In 1961, Mombassa was in ZANZIBAR, not in Kenya.

3. In 1961, the hospital was called "Coast PROVINCIAL General Hospital".

And this:

An intelligence contact with Israeli connections says this: “We checked all the hospitals in Kenya, starting in early 2008. There is no such birth certificate. This is another fake. It is also a very bad fake, by the way, very amateurish, as anyone who has seen the real items would immediately discern.”

I also found a number of anomalies that shout, "Forgery." It's a government document saying the birth happened and that a birth certificate exists -- or pretty much like Obama's bogus Hawaiian COLB.

I'll keep you posted on what else we find.

Back to my report.

[patriot08]

4,111 replies · 152,455+ views

Amazing.

[autumnraine]

Did you see the Republic of Kenya 1964 stamps up thread? Unless they printed the stamps in the last two weeks of the year.

[Porterville]

That is the amended constitution; the original only refers to representatives.

[Manic_Episode]

MOTHER OF PEARL! I can't believe I read the whoooooooole thing!

9 hours!

{Collapses}

[markomalley]

The security writing on the paper is the first hint.

Second, look at the coat of arms.

A real British Coat of Arms looks like this:

Note the horn is cut off the unicorn on the right on the paper in question.

Third, there are two separate places cited as place of birth. Above, it said Coast Provincial Hospital. But in Block 2, it said King George VI hospital (which is in Nairobi, not Mombasa).

Also, there are two separate styles of handwritten "7" -- one in the block 7 (time of birth: 1137), one in the application number.

[SaraJohnson]

Yes, birth, death and wedding announcements are for acquaintences in the larger community. Obama’s grandparents put his birth announcement in the papers and I would not be surprised if it was not duel purpose given their dumb daughter got knocked up by a Kenyan and then flew off to Kenya to give birth to their grandson.

[TChad]

jveritas is a troll.

He might be wrong (though I wouldn't bet on it) but he is not a troll.

[PureSolace]

Congrats! Consider it part of your training. :)

[bgill]

Coincidentally, 1964 was also the year that Dunham/Obama allegedly got divorced, even though no record has yet appeared of their ‘marriage.’

Remember, that was back in the hippy free love days. They probably just came up with a year because they needed to fill in a blank without bothering to count back 9 months or didn't care about being full term. Or maybe they claimed common law marriage though from all reports they never really lived together.

[MissDairyGoodnessVT]

I sure hope Orly sees this

[autumnraine]

We are deciding on the Republic of Kenya issue.

Mombasa was not IN ZANZIBAR. Mombasa is in the 10 mile strip of land OWNED BY Zanzibar and LEASED FOR 75 YEARS UNTIL THE INDEPENDENCE OF KENYA BY BRITAIN ON BEHALF OF KENYA.

Technically Zanzibar OWNED Mombasa, but they were not occupying or using it in any official capacity except collecting rent (or tribute as they called it).

[Diggity]

Kenya was admitted to the UN on 12/16/1963. It would have been called a Republic.

The Dec 1964 date is revelant only to the British.

[I got the rope]

Fake but accurate.

[RatsDawg]

Cunningham talking about it now!

He is taking calls, but no Orly Taitz tonight.

He also said he believes Obama was born in Honolulu because of the birth announcement in the news paper.

[Sophia777]

LOL me too been at it all day, please dear god let this be true

[SaraJohnson]

I’m sorry, Salamander, but this is the funniest side show on the thread - everyone chasing down the mystery of Salamander!

[kaehurowing]

I’m only going to believe this if DEBKAFiles verifies it’s true.

[I got the rope]

Good one.

[Polarik]

All of that would be great for playing “Trivial Pursuit,” but the bobttom line is whether the document is real.|

You need to find only one indelible fact to sink this ship.