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The socialist universal health care bills proposed in the House and Senate are unconstitutional. No where in Article I Section 8 is the power to regulate health care listed. Let you Congress critters know! Toll free capital switchboard numbers are below.

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1 posted on 07/30/2009 3:34:16 AM PDT by Man50D
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There were “ok” arguments when the gov took over car companies, since the gov. gave them so much money.

There were slightly plausible arguments when the gov took over the banks, because they wanted to add regulations to prevent another meltdown.

There are NO good arguments for letting the gov. control your healthcare. Say it’s a liberal in charge (far fetched, I know), then what? What decisions can they dictate? Free abortions? No priests allowed in hospitals to visit the sick and give last rights?


90 posted on 07/30/2009 8:46:15 AM PDT by Artifact Hurling (There is only one founding Father)
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This may have been in the works for a while.

A friend heard a couple of Physical Therapists talking about centers like these and offices run by Nurse Practicioners, PAs and PTs with advanced degrees in the past couple of weeks.

The friend had brought up the math problem of the new 40-50 million people under 0b0z0 care, needing medical care with no new doctors.

He was informed that wouldn’t be a big problem as many of the people now being treated in MDs’s offices and hospitals could easily be handled by new treatment centers run by PHD RNs, PAS and PTS. That would free up MDs for more seriously sick patients (probably younger).

When my friend asked who would these centers hire to handle the elderly and those move from primary care, he was told that the SEIU was ready with trained personnel to do these jobs.

For more info re the scary SEIU check out this link: http://www.seiu.org/splash/ and their ad how their Change Works.

Then my friend heard that many insurance companies were financing studies re these options.

We need to Abort 0b0z0 Health Care, before it does late term abortions on those of us over age 60.


92 posted on 07/30/2009 9:07:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foreign/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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To: Man50D

There were “ok” arguments when the gov took over car companies, since the gov. gave them so much money.

There were slightly plausible arguments when the gov took over the banks, because they wanted to add regulations to prevent another meltdown.

There are NO good arguments for letting the gov. control your healthcare. Say it’s a liberal in charge (far fetched, I know), then what? What decisions can they dictate? Free abortions? No priests allowed in hospitals to visit the sick and give last rights?


94 posted on 07/30/2009 9:18:08 AM PDT by Artifact Hurling (There is only one founding Father)
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Where was it- France, I think, several years ago, had 12,000 elderly die “from global warming induced heat waves” while in state-run nursing homes.

Bet it saved a pile of evidence-based medical cost!


96 posted on 07/30/2009 9:19:17 AM PDT by DBrow
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House Health-Care Bill Would Establish 'Medical Homes' for the Elderly and Disabled.

Didn't Hitler call them ovens?

97 posted on 07/30/2009 9:22:59 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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OMG... can you say "death camps"???

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The House health-care reform bill proposes to decrease hospital visits by establishing a “medical home pilot program” for elderly and disabled Americans.

Such a medical home would not require a physician to be on the staff, and therefore could be run solely by nurse practitioners and physician assistants. Medical homes also would practice “evidence-based” medicine, which advocates only the use of medical treatments that are supported by effectiveness research...

100 posted on 07/30/2009 9:31:49 AM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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They sound like the NAZI death chambers.

Does Stalin Oboma consider them useless eaters and therefore expendable?

The democrats in the house and senate are members of this new death cult. It would be a good idea to discuss this with the democrat voters you know, so they don;t forget this Universal Death Sentence bill in 2010. They, too, will someday be sent to one of the democrat death camps.

103 posted on 07/30/2009 9:56:41 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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105 posted on 07/30/2009 10:05:21 AM PDT by devolve (- - Free Republic needs a probationary status to weed out the sleepers and diverters - -)
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Ronald Reagan's 1961 speech against "Socialized Medicine" can be found here

Another wonderful site with great information is the American Association of Physicians & Surgeons, whose opposition to socialized medicine has been ongoing for many years. Visit it here

From there, there are links to other sites and to upcoming events, including this one, pertaining to this weekend.

109 posted on 07/30/2009 10:26:25 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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Prime Minister Raffarin, along with many French doctors, weighed in by blaming the 35-hour working week, introduced by the Socialists, for creating chronic staff shortages as the crisis unfolded. Certainly, the 35 hour week has plenty to answer for, including a tanking economy, but this entire government appears to be in denial. You will note that every man jack of them is missing the point: No air-conditioning. Not even any ice. Ten thousand four hundred old people died because they couldn’t lower their body temperatures.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=16614

As many as half the deaths were at nursing homes, which were short-staffed because many aides and doctors were on vacation and were overcrowded because many families had checked in elderly relatives and also headed off to beaches and mountains. During August, much of the nation goes on vacation, and it is common for elderly relatives to be left at nursing homes. Most nursing homes and hospitals lack air conditioning because of health laws. French authorities have long believed air-conditioning systems do more harm, by spreading germs, than good.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2003-08-26-france-death_x.htm

As far as we are aware, the publication of this estimate prompted only a little activity to investigate the specific conditions that led to the excess mortality, and no large-scale public actions to prevent heat-related deaths in the future. The general feeling that the only victims of the extreme summer temperatures were very elderly and frail people who would anyway have died within a few weeks (this is sometimes referred to as ‘harvesting’) may partly account for this equanimity.

http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=557

Doctors and health experts, the people no one listened to during the heat wave, are telling a larger, darker story. The heat wave only made visible, they say, a crisis that had been under way for years: a chronically under-funded and understaffed elder care system combined with a national habit of shutting senior citizens out of sight and mind.

“The French family structure is more dislocated than elsewhere in Europe, and prevailing social attitudes hold that once older people are closed behind their apartment doors or in nursing homes, they are someone else’s problem,”

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,477899,00.html

European heatwave caused 35,000 deaths

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4259-european-heatwave-caused-35000-deaths.html


110 posted on 07/30/2009 10:27:51 AM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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FUBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


114 posted on 07/30/2009 11:00:24 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people the people to remain silent.)
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To: Man50D

Kind of like a kubler ross death house?


121 posted on 07/30/2009 12:07:03 PM PDT by GOPJ (Maldives sea levels have NOT risen in 1250 years -Professor Nils-Axel Moerner)
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126 posted on 07/30/2009 1:12:38 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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130 posted on 07/30/2009 1:34:59 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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On page 425 it says in black and white that EVERYONE on Social Security, (will include all Senior Citizens and SSI people) will go to MANDATORY counseling every 5 years to learn and to choose from ways to end your suffering (and your life). Health care will be denied based on age. 500 Billion will be cut from Seniors healthcare. The only way for that to happen is to drastically cut health care, the oldest and the sickest will be cut first. Paying for your own care will not be an option.

135 posted on 07/30/2009 1:47:27 PM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter (Barack Obama is the Grim Reaper)
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"60,000 Reichsmark is what this person suffering from hereditary defects costs the community during his lifetime. Fellow Germans, that is your money, too. Read 'New People', the monthly magazine of the Bureau for Race Politics of the Nazi Party."

146 posted on 07/30/2009 2:52:22 PM PDT by dynachrome (I am Jim Thompson!)
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"Medical Homes" ------ to be known as ------> Death Houses!
169 posted on 07/30/2009 6:26:56 PM PDT by StormEye
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Soylent Green is People!

This proves that Obama and his minions are evil, I equate them with the likes of Moloch.
176 posted on 07/30/2009 8:48:52 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Woodrow Wilson should have been waterboarded.)
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btt


178 posted on 07/30/2009 9:51:14 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Pinged from Terri Dailies


188 posted on 07/31/2009 5:08:34 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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