Posted on 07/28/2009 7:42:01 PM PDT by ckilmer
I think it does. Suppose someone had found 700 votes for Gore in FL in 2003. Then what ? Once the Electoral college votes, it is over.
Furthermore, O'Reilley said that archived copies of 2 Honolulu newspapers have Obama's birth announcements in them.
BFLR
...There are always questions, but there are more important issues. Obama is a citizen, and unfortunatly he’s the POTUS...
The Birthers 15 minutes of fame is over.
I'd settle for a valid certificate of live birth. What's so hard? These naves just can't seem to get it through their thick heads. BIRTH CERTIFICATE! Not a bunch of rhetoric as to why no BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
It does a good job of laying out the argument, but there is no way this is a hired investigator's report as represented in the editor's note. I have read such reports and they read nothing like this.
This is the kind of thing that provides ammunition to the other side. The article purports to be the unedited results of a private investigation commissioned by an ex-CIA officer, but reads like a summary of all the "birther" arguments.
The arguments may or may not be valid, but the article is a mis-representation of what it claims to be.
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
John Adams, in Defense of the British Soldiers on trial for the Boston Massacre, December 4, 1770
For those that keep saying this is over, just move on, well, why does ozero keep paying lawyers to keep this thing down. This birther problem will not go away until the truth comes out. There are multiple lawsuits that have not been settled yet and ozero has not called off his defensive lawyer team. This is not over by a long shot.
You will want to read this when you get back home. Long, and covers all the bases. This story isn’t dead yet.
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others have doubts and know that the consequences of wrecking the house to get rid of the cockroach are worse than applying RAID until we can teach the majority of America to vote him out peacefully.
In December ‘08 a retired CIA officer commissioned an investigator
Even if this had been available on January 20, the fact remains that 60+ million Americans not only don't care what the Constitution says, they would have happily ignored it and voted for him out of spite. If we can't get enough voters who even support the Constitution, then it explains why conservatives now need to have Tea Parties.
Tea Parties may be an early symptom of a banana republic, not a solution.
OK, point taken, and good points they are.
My view of this can be summed up easily:
The article we’re talking about raises questions that are not refutable, i.e., the analysis of how Article II Section 1 applies, and how legislation even retroactively CANNOT make 0bama eligible to hold the Office of President.
I don’t care if the janitor in my local high school wrote that article, the facts are the facts.
I have yet to see anyone seriously debunk that article. I’ve seen people attack Joe Farah and WND, I’ve seen people suggest all sorts of things but the one thing I have NOT seen is a point-by-point refutation of the article itself, and that says more to me than whoever’s name does or does not appear on or in the article.
The NYT and the likes of Rather deal with lies as standard operating procedure, they wouldn’t know the truth if it ran up to them and chewed their ‘nads off. THIS article deals with a subject which is readily understood and is based not on lies, but on facts. If someone could disprove what was written regarding the various birth certificates that have been in use by the State of Hawaii, they would already have done so. If someone could disprove that Article II Section 1 of the Constitution means exactly what it says, they would have already done it.
If someone stands out in an open field, points to the sky and screams “THE SKY IS BLUE!”, I will look up and confirm if that sky is blue or not, I’m not going to say “excuse me, but who are you, what is your name?”
See what I mean?
Obama is not a citizen
bkmk
...Yea, but the thread keeps growing. Let them go, you and I have other issues to address...
...I am with them to keep up with this, they may find something, and we’ll be eating crow, my FRiend.(-%...
Isn’t 0’s specialty constitutional law? And he’s surrounded by minions of the same species. Presto!
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Read it again. I said that's what some of THEM think.
I stand corrected. The unwed rule only applies if birth in the US.
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